AMD's Bulldozer architecture

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AMD's Bulldozer architecture

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AMD's Bulldozer architecture has just launched. Reviews from sites that I trust are at Techreport.com and Anandtech.com. Other sites exist, but I've found that those two are some of the more level-headed sites that don't turn into fanboys for one side or the other.

From the Techreport summary at the end of the article:
As you can see, the FX-8150 can't quite match the overall performance of the Core i5-2500K, and it costs $29 more, as well. That puts the FX-8150 in a difficult position purely from a value standpoint—without even considering that the Core i5-2500K fits into a smaller 95W power envelope.
I was personally hoping they'd be more competitive so that there'd be some pricing pressure on Intel. The Core i5-2500K/i7-2600K haven't really budged in price since January, which is a rarity in (non-Apple) technology.

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Processors rarely budge much in pricing. It's kind of ridiculous.

I see that AMD has an 8 core processor now....
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I've always wanted the AMD Bulldozer but it might mean i need to get a new computer and i not got any money to get one.
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Speaking of CPU prices, I recently looked at Intels Core 2 Duo E8400 (which is what I have) and it actually went up in price since I bought it. o.O CPU prices don't really change much apparently, or if anything.. go up in price after a while. Strange I guess.

AMD usually I think pushes out more cores before Intel does, but may not always be the case. I don't have a preference to AMD currently, as Intel hasn't done me any harm since I got this E8400 in my system. Hasn't let me down, so why switch what already works too well?

I've vaguely heard about AMD's Bulldozer architecture, but there isn't much I even know about it, so there isn't much I can say about it.
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-APOCALYPSE- wrote:I've always wanted the AMD Bulldozer but it might mean i need to get a new computer and i not got any money to get one.
Start with the mobo and work up. How many times do I have to tell you a scratchbuild is cheaper?


I'm rocking one of AMD's recent processors in this, and it copes with anything I throw at it with ease, be it video games or Cubase (which is a monster when it's in full swing). I can't see this much power being truly necessary to even a demanding user for a bit.
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GSH wrote:AMD's Bulldozer architecture has just launched. Reviews from sites that I trust are at Techreport.com and Anandtech.com. Other sites exist, but I've found that those two are some of the more level-headed sites that don't turn into fanboys for one side or the other.

From the Techreport summary at the end of the article:
As you can see, the FX-8150 can't quite match the overall performance of the Core i5-2500K, and it costs $29 more, as well. That puts the FX-8150 in a difficult position purely from a value standpoint—without even considering that the Core i5-2500K fits into a smaller 95W power envelope.
I was personally hoping they'd be more competitive so that there'd be some pricing pressure on Intel. The Core i5-2500K/i7-2600K haven't really budged in price since January, which is a rarity in (non-Apple) technology.

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Server benchmarks aren't happy either.

Analysis I've seen at this site notes that the number of transistors seems way high for the announced features. Only hope for AMD I can see right now is that it's like the Intel Prescott variant, which similarly bulked up transistors, and a while after launch, Intel said "oh, 64 bit support? Yeah we do that now. Here's a BIOS update that turns it all on." AMD might be hiding some shader cores in bulldozer, or something else that was about 95% ready when they needed to ship, and they'll fix it up and enable it for the next stepping. Not sure. If they aren't, they're in trouble.

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Late reply to TwinShadow, CPU costs shoot back up when they stop making a specific socket compatible type and the one in question is on the higher end of those able to go into the socket. For example, a CPU that would fit into my current mobo that is better would cost nearly as much as my computer did in the first place even though a modern processor would kill it in any metrics.
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