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Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:25 pm
by MrTwosheds
I did find myself wondering if faithful reproduction, crappy looking bits and all was actually the best approach.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:50 am
by jaydenbz2
Hey GBD, if you have an spare time I'd like to talk to you about the CP2, I know you did help me with some weapons a while ago, your input would be valued in further continuation of your work, once we have the core assets completed we will be able to consider "opening" up the doors with the CP, making betas, etc.

Are you interested.

-Jayden

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:27 pm
by General BlackDragon
Yeah, I can help do some DLL coding, weapons, assets, whatever. Only thing I'm not good at is models and textures.

But if you guys feed me models and textures, I can make amazing things happen :)

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:53 pm
by Zero Angel
GBD have you considered tweaking LIFT_SPRING and LIFT_DAMP to bring BZC unit physics closer to BZ1 craft physics?

Also, having never played BZ1 and thus having no nostalgia for it -- I think the explosion/hit effects look pretty crappy. Surely there has got to be a way to 'remaster' the effects without changing them in any radical sort of way.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:25 pm
by Nielk1
From what I can tell they look identical to BZ1, which was the intention.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:13 pm
by MrTwosheds
From what I can tell they look identical to BZ1, which was the intention.
Indeed this is very well done!
I was a bit disappointed though when I loaded 2 flash cannons onto my scout, discovered it still ran out of ammo in .7 seconds without even dealing enough damage to kill another scout. Just like the original. :(

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:45 pm
by Zax
It is based off of 1.4, which broke more things than it fixed. With 1.5 being developed ...there is now a moving point of contention.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:04 am
by Nielk1
Zax wrote:It is based off of 1.4, which broke more things than it fixed. With 1.5 being developed ...there is now a moving point of contention.
Is no one ever f*cking happy?

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:25 am
by General BlackDragon
The flash cannon is a bit of a questionable area.

The current version in BZC does equal damage over time as Blast Cannon does. (400 damage a second)

BZ1.5 just experimented with making it take less ammo and doing 600 damage a second, which I feel is a bit over powered...

But, of all the weapon balance in BZC, the Flash Cannon is the one that is most open to debate.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:47 am
by MrTwosheds
From a strat perspective, I would say that if a weapon cannot destroy a ship equivalent to the one its loaded on, then it might as well not be there.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:09 am
by Nielk1
MrTwosheds wrote:From a strat perspective, I would say that if a weapon cannot destroy a ship equivalent to the one its loaded on, then it might as well not be there.
That is a pretty narrow band of what is balancing. Just the simplest band.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:35 am
by MrTwosheds
Yes, very simple, if it cannot kill nobody will use it. Its great in guntowers though. :)
I ought to point out that the only other version of bz1 I have played is the one on the disk, a long time ago.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:04 pm
by Zax
The range is so poor of the 1.5 flash cannon that to load it on a guntower would be suicidal. It would never fire back against bombers or SP.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:12 pm
by Red Spot
Zax wrote:The range is so poor of the 1.5 flash cannon that to load it on a guntower would be suicidal. It would never fire back against bombers or SP.
Proper placement and not doing so vs human opponents does make it quite the interesting weapon for this purpose.

Re: - Battlezone Classic Multiplayer Demo

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:12 pm
by General BlackDragon
*bump*

So, does anyone play this?

Is it not fun to play?

are there any more bugs to tell me?


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