MrTwosheds wrote:Anybody with respect for 'real' vets will not call themself vet, you may be called a vet out of respect, but you do not call yourself vet.
If we would actually be vets, than why do you and me not call ourselves as such? I've been around longer than most and am better at the game than most and I'm just a mere player.
Maybe, but in the context of bz2 strat, I would say it just refers to any player who has taken part in many games and at least knows what they supposed to be doing... I don't think it really has anything to do with skill or wins. I would consider most of the people here to be vets, with 1 or 2 exceptions who I will politely not name
I still respect them anyway.
Agreed. To me it's kind of like being a programmer. A programmer is someone who knows a programming language and utilizes knowledge of that language to write programs -- they don't have to be good at it, but they do need to have actually written a program (which they cannot do without certain core understandings and skills), and preferably to do so on a regular basis to still be considered a programmer.
Veterancy is the same way, except it has to do with fundamental skills earned through play and often also through mistakes. Someone can have a high innate talent and still be considered a noob, but also someone can have a low innate talent and even low performance and still be considered a vet because they actively utilize skills like painting and asking for pods, and running from combat when it is unwise to fight, etc.
Lets say that there's some dude who is a hardcore twitch gamer that joins an ST game. He never asks for pods, dies in enemy base constantly (often not even attacking high value targets), ALWAYS chases retreating players, never returns paints, ignores scavs completely, constantly bugs his commander for a ship when he's lost it -- but has a good feel for the physics of his ship and often scores kills on B and C rank players who are typically not very good at dogfighting. The kills he has racked up does not make him a vet -- if he knew how to play BZ2 'properly' for the selected game mode, then he may be considered a veteran of that game mode.
For example, I would consider Commando an ST vet because i've seen him play in strat (in 1.3 testing) and I know he knows how to play it properly and even proficiently. But maybe he might not also be considered a vet by other people because they have never seen him play before. That's only natural then, for some people to assume that he doesnt have those core competencies and experience, so is not a vet.
Then again there are people who think vets are those who have played ST actively enough so their name and skill level becomes known (for good or worse), but I would like to re-iterate that people are not considered 'vets' only for being good at dogfighting, and the title 'vet' is often assigned to a player by other players.
