Interesting article thread

[MrTwosheds]

Its clearly the answer to all our troubles though! combine tag, credit, debit card, passport etc. Instantly Authority's can judge someone's worth and take any payments due, offload the government debt directly onto its people and make them work it off. Debt accruing from birth, the Monetised Human ascends from the murky soup of simple evolution, selling their organs off just to retain some limited perception of liberty or reaping the rewards of outrageous success as the corporate organism consumes the planets resources simply for the sake of more consumption. Just think of all that power the lucky few can enjoy!

[Ded10c]

[Red Devil]

well, we've known all along that the "New World Order" globalists were pushing for this and so it is no surprise to see it coming down the street. it's all about giving away control of your life to government in return for the safety of the herd.

the big question is, will you sheeple submit?

[Iron_Maiden]

Jeronimoh!:

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/06/ ... foot-jump/

[Zenophas]

well, we've known all along that the "New World Order" globalists were pushing for this and so it is no surprise to see it coming down the street. it's all about giving away control of your life to government in return for the safety of the herd.

the big question is, will you sheeple submit?

Heh, that's pretty funny. zionist media conspiracy new world order alex jones infowars war for profit corporations rabble rabble rabble

[APCs r Evil]

If they ever make ID chips that can be disabled or easily removed by the user, I'll probably be okay with them. I still wouldn't have one of course, but I'd be okay with everyone else having them.

Until that day though, they're right up there with Hillary.

[Ded10c]

There will probably be away of disabling/removing them anyway, and there will, of course, be people who can provide the service.

(I seem to remember disabling microchips on the black market being an element of a sci-fi game recently... something like Deus Ex, Hard Reset or EYE, anybody else? Can't remember, it's bugging me...)

[Psychedelic Rhino]

well, we've known all along that the "New World Order" globalists were pushing for this and so it is no surprise to see it coming down the street. it's all about giving away control of your life to government in return for the safety of the herd.

the big question is, will you sheeple submit?

Technology and information is requiring mankind to draw together as a single "family". As we understand more and more about global economies and moral beliefs at deep intellectual and scientific levels, we will find our inner nature will want us to do what is best . . .for everyone.

Coming into existence in a desolate place should not have to contemn someone to an utterly horrific life. Remember, it could have been that situation in which you popped into life. In that respect, everyone reading this post has won life's lottery.

The United States has been the primary force behind liberating entire countries from certain demise over the last century. Chiefly because we had the resources and wealth. If not the US, I'm certain another country would have. There were many countries over the past hundred years who have stepped forward to help keep humanity at least somewhat civilized. However, the US can no longer take a primary role policing the world at the scale required.

I realize that may raise the hackles of some because of the many sins the US has committed. But as we move forward, a new approach must occur. Some kind of world understanding must coalesce to rid ourselves of the certain destruction that WILL occur with the confused belief systems that are rampant throughout the world.

[MrTwosheds]

Technology and information is requiring mankind to draw together as a single "family". As we understand more and more about global economies and moral beliefs at deep intellectual and scientific levels, we will find our inner nature will want us to do what is best . . .for everyone.

A worrying lack of insight or a level of optimism akin to "faith". Technology is a two edged sword.

Coming into existence in a desolate place should not have to contemn someone to an utterly horrific life.

It can, but most of the time it does not. This is one of the big myths sown in rich nations to make us feel like were lucky.
Many of those people who's lives you consider horrific, will actually have a far more "human" experience of life than the average "nuclear family worker" of the west. Large extended families living with each other and those around them without the fear so common in "developed" nations. Poverty is just a lack of money, if you have food, a roof, and the trust of those around you, then you have a wealth long forgotten by the economic orphans of the fiscally driven world.

The United States has been the primary force behind liberating entire countries from certain demise over the last century. Chiefly because we had the resources and wealth.

For the past 30- 40 years much of that wealth was actually originally someone else's...Nice clean history they teach you over there....GROW YOUR OWN TREES!

[APCs r Evil]

The United States has been the primary force behind liberating entire countries from certain demise over the last century. Chiefly because we had the resources and wealth. If not the US, I'm certain another country would have. There were many countries over the past hundred years who have stepped forward to help keep humanity at least somewhat civilized. However, the US can no longer take a primary role policing the world at the scale required.

And look where that has brought us. The world hates and/or fears us. We're broke and bringing most of the world down with us. We're in unjustified, illegal wars killing just as many if not more innocents than actual combatants, which does nothing to improve our image, economy, OR reduce the number of actual combatants we face. Our constitution is in tatters. Any one of us, even poor MrT over there, could be taken to Gitmo at any moment for any reason the president wishes to be tortured and imprisoned indefinitely. Or if we're lucky we'll just be hit by a drone fired missile.

[Psychedelic Rhino]

It can, but most of the time it does not. This is one of the big myths sown in rich nations to make us feel like were lucky.
Many of those people who's lives you consider horrific, will actually have a far more "human" experience of life than the average "nuclear family worker" of the west. Large extended families living with each other and those around them without the fear so common in "developed" nations. Poverty is just a lack of money, if you have food, a roof, and the trust of those around you, then you have a wealth long forgotten by the economic orphans of the fiscally driven world.

I'll keep it all to this one. It is very easy for us in the west, and especially us in the middle or upper class sitting around full of rich foods, potato chip crumbs on the chin, a mug of ale on their computer desk and say, "Ooooh, come on, they don't have it that bad, they have some corrugated metal and tarp or mud hut to keep them warm, they have their patch of tubers and rice. Get over it, they are doing fine." The key pronouns here are 'they' and 'them'.

I would be willing to wager that 99% would gladly change places with ANY middle class person in a western country. The percentage of those in the west willing to trade places with them. . .well. . . I doubt I have to answer that one for you.

I tend to agree with Harris in the respect that there has to be "a place of better balance."

But that was and is not my point. We cannot allow. . .yes, allow many cultures to continue their confused state of what they consider to be 'right', if we want a global society to flourish.

A hundred years ago, it took entire armies to change the societal landscape of a continent or country. Technology has changed that. Now a small group of dedicated fanatics can alter the history of a country. The west has been exceedingly lucky in the past few decades. Our luck WILL run out if we allow dogmas to continue that see it as a righteous privilege to their god to bring down the west and our way of life.

[MrTwosheds]

It is now generally understood, that our planet is now going into its 7th phase of mass extinction, at a much faster rate than in the previous 6. This global society you dream of has very little time left to appear. Humanity blooms at the expense of the ecosystems that keep it alive.
It is simply not possible for the whole of humanity to have a "western" lifestyle the way it is at the moment, neither economics or biological realities will allow it. Aiming for this is to condemn human civilisation to failure. Some fairly radical changes need to occur just to get us back to a stable situation. Things like religious extremism are consequences, not the problem itself.
We have to learn how to live with the rest of this planets (non Human) inhabitants, rather than live off of them. It is the only viable route to success, technology will help if we use it wisely or kill us if we don't.
The biggest religious problem we have now, Is the cult of Mammon and the insanity's it drives us to.

[GSH]

Now this is just plain creepy. Or should I have posted this in PR's UAV thread? ;)

-- GSH

[MrTwosheds]

Hmm that must be the 102nd use for a dead cat...

[Red Spot]

With such an owner you wonder how the cat lost its first 9 lives in the first place