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Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:27 am
by Red Devil
more like 'responsibility'

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:04 am
by Nielk1
Red Devil wrote:more like 'responsibility'
Exactly.

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:33 am
by Red Spot
Red Devil wrote:more like 'responsibility'
Which is something you take cause you dont want to feel guilty.

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:49 pm
by Psychedelic Rhino

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:30 pm
by Zenophas
I highly doubt a child would poison my drink. But, I guess, in amaericant, everything is dangerous or potential terrorism.

This country makes me sick, though, this is Fawx news.

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:37 pm
by Iron_Maiden
Then why do you stay?

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:27 pm
by Ded10c
Fox News is funny, but the sheer overreaction is hilarious.

Unstoppable force and immovable object.

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:00 am
by Zenophas
Iron_Maiden wrote:Then why do you stay?
Why do you pry?

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:09 am
by Iron_Maiden

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:30 am
by Red Spot
Iron_Maiden wrote:Then why do you stay?
Easy to say. I dislike where my country is going, where I liked the place we came from. I can now decide to move, but where to? Which place is better?
Knowing there is no better place doesnt help change my country either. So I stay where I am, accept where my country is going, but still can claim this country is slowly making me sick.

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:05 am
by MrTwosheds
There is no escape! the show will go on wherever you try to hide from it, always evolving down to the lowest common denominator. Nobody actually knows what happens, when world populations grow too large, the dynamics of mass communication are complex and unpredictable, this is why people constantly seek to simplify them down to idiotic levels. The best approach is to simply ignore most of it. TV is not human culture, it is product, if you have allowed yourself to be fooled into thinking that what it shows is a representation of reality, then you need to get out more.

Green for Green?:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/ ... 4J20120910
The concept of saving the world through luxury priced goods is inherently flawed. What was needed (some time ago) was an organised effort to develop and roll out a safe technology on a global scale. That approach could have worked, obviously it would actually be simpler and quicker to go to a "gas" station for a battery change rather than have your vehicle re-filled with explosive liquid every few hundred miles. Centralised Battery production and recycling, localised distribution and charging , could have produced a whole new industry and driven an energy generation revolution that was controlled by ordinary people rather than oil magnates and states obsessed with the business of taxation and warfare.
Maybe I should invent the petrol powered mobile phone...obviously its so much simpler than batteries! :lol:

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:56 pm
by Zenophas
Red Spot wrote:
Iron_Maiden wrote:Then why do you stay?
Easy to say. I dislike where my country is going, where I liked the place we came from. I can now decide to move, but where to? Which place is better?
Knowing there is no better place doesnt help change my country either. So I stay where I am, accept where my country is going, but still can claim this country is slowly making me sick.
It's not that. I know where I want to move to. Either Japan or Sweden. It'll happen eventually.

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:32 pm
by Red Devil
Red Spot wrote:
Red Devil wrote:more like 'responsibility'
Which is something you take cause you dont want to feel guilty.
well, if you approach life from a negative viewpoint fostered by guilt, say from from living off of other peoples' money, then, yes.

if you approach life from the viewpoint of making a positive difference, fostered by being proud of your work and accomplishments, then, no.

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:33 pm
by MrTwosheds
well, if you approach life from a negative viewpoint fostered by guilt, say from from living off of other peoples' money, then, yes.
Lol, Red everyone lives off of other peoples money, that's how money works, it's imaginary, people only feel guilty about it if they actually deprive someone else of something real that they actually needed. Do you suppose wall street traders feel proud of their accomplishments when they make a lot of money out of impoverishing a bunch of hardworking farmers? They probably do because they never get to see the real effects of their accomplishments. Benefit claimants do not feel guilty about being dependent, they might feel guilty about the alternative ways of surviving available to them such as theft. The solution to economic poverty is to prevent "real" poverty from being the default state in the first place. Humans do not actually need money at all, they need food, water and somewhere to live, a shortage of these things is real poverty. Our civilisation is obsessed with the creation of an imaginary concept, very little consideration is given to the real, this is going to destroy that "civilisation".

Guilt is something you feel only when it is too late to take responsibility...

Re: Interesting article thread

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:55 pm
by Red Devil
so, when you earn money, whether by making smart trades or earning a salary, that money really belongs to the guy next door? so, we should give all or most of our hard-earned money to someone who doesn't have any? if so, then why should we work?