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Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:32 am
by Iron_Maiden

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:14 pm
by GSH
Parents with mentally unstable kids struggle. Yes, some mental hospitals went overboard in the past. The pendulum might have swung too far the other way, not helping people get the treatments they need.

-- GSH

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:45 am
by Iron_Maiden
In case your too lazy to do it yourself:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ology.html

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:38 am
by Iron_Maiden

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:34 am
by jack775544
Cloning can be ethical for some uses. Just say that a person has lost one kidney and the other is also on the decline, then doctors could simply use some of your tissue and grow a new organ that could be transplanted in with no chance of rejection.
Cloning an actual being is one thing that would definantly in a moral grey zone, and personally I don't believe it should be done.

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:35 pm
by GSH
Certain foods like onions and bananas can trigger massive headaches for some. Not news here -- those allergies run in my family.

-- GSH

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:25 pm
by MrTwosheds
Well my own personal lifelong experience of migraine rather implies the opposite is more accurate. That its what you haven't eaten that is far more likely to be a trigger for a migraine. Went though all this allergy stuff as a kid, utterly inconclusive in my opinion.
It took many more years and personal control over what I was eating to come to the conclusion that my major trigger is not eating enough starchy white carbohydrate foods such as potatoes or rice (at the right time). Now I am actually able to prevent them from occurring at all, or at least from becoming debilitatingly painful.
I have also discovered that asprin works very well but that paracetamol does nothing at all to alleviate the causes of the headache and is actually counter productive because it dulls the pain and thus permits the actual underlying problem to get worse. I had a very weird experience some time ago when I developed a migraine while taking the anti inflamatory pain killing drug diclofenac sodium. Its a very effective pain killer, but it does not stop migraine from happening, it just stops it hurting.
So I ended up wandering around Camden at night, trembling with blinding lights and sounds assaulting my pain free but still horribly throbbing head, an experience very much like that caused by some recreational drugs...(I don't recommend it) Rice and a couple of hours sleep sorted it out.

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:27 pm
by Ded10c
In my mother's side of the family family, tomatoes and cheese both trigger migraines.

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:43 pm
by MrTwosheds
Your gut actually has neural pathways all the way along it. (people do actually think with their stomachs!) Migraine (my sort at least) is mostly caused by a physiological event in my digestive system first, I can now detect a Migraine before any cerebral symptoms occur, and thus prevent it from getting worse, by recognising a particular gut feeling that is a bit like hunger, but unpleasant. I can prevent a Migraine from developing if I eat a plate of boiled potatoes before it starts hurting.
Personally I have found no correlation at all with eating certain types of food, just that if enough other triggers (stress, polluted air, lack of exercise etc) accumulate with the not enough starchy carbohydrate trigger, then a Migraine may well occur.

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:46 pm
by Red Spot
GSH wrote:Certain foods like onions and bananas can trigger massive headaches for some. Not news here -- those allergies run in my family.

-- GSH
My personal physician has some method of finding out what substance you can be 'sensitive' to, not really allergies, but stuff that can make your metabolism go wonkers. (Something he has specialised himself in, so far being the only specialist in the field.)
As it is you can be sensitive to just about any substance and the effect on the individual can vary a great deal.
Ofcourse anything with certain specific substances can trigger things a lot sooner, like cafeïne being a problem for most people, just in such a light way most dont even notice it, untill they take a few cups more than usual. Or when one demands a great deal of his/her body.

eg: I am sensitive to 'cow products', I can drink goat milk without a problem, but give me 2-3 glasses of cow milk and I'll spend twice as much time on the toilet than usual for 1-2 weeks. Took me quite some time to figure that out as well, not being allergic to dairy products or any other substance.

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:49 pm
by MrTwosheds
In my mother's side of the family family, tomatoes and cheese both trigger migraines.
Or is it that when your eating cheese and tomatoes, you are not eating potatoes? :)
Its a complex cause and effect situation. Not eating at all for some time will make any person feel unwell. Not eating enough of certain essential substances is highly likely to put a metabolism into the situation where a trigger substance can then appear to be the "cause" of the Migraine, When actually it is just the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. Failing to address the underlying nutritional imbalances that are the main cause could lead to a person making a very long list of "allergens" to be avoided, when actually they are perfectly good food when the body is not already in an nourishment deficient state.
I was 6 when doctors theorised that dark chocolate caused my migraines. It does not. I also notice that they often occur if I have been eating cheese and tomato, this is not due to the cheese and tomato sandwich, it is due to it being a meal with a low starchy carbohydrate content which is what my body actually needed at that point in time. Choosing it instead of proper meal with potatoes rice etc caused the migraine.
I suffered from the sort of migraine that cause extreme debilitating pain, painful light and sound sensitivity and finally a vomiting of excess stomach bile and food. The migraine would then end. In my teens I learned to induce vomiting in order to end the migraine quickly, only later did I learn that I could manage my nutrition to stop them ever getting that bad at all. Now I have learned that attempting to live on cheese and tomato sandwiches alone is a really bad idea, but as long as I make sure to have some meals with the right substances in them (Porridge is excellent) then cheese and tomato is not a problem at all.
These days I eat quite a wide range of stuff, I even got some Noori seaweed the other day! which is a rare find round here, still trying to figure out how to cook it.

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:26 pm
by Ded10c
Nah, just a case of different things triggering it for different people. I'm not affected by either, and my diet is utterly terrible.

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:33 am
by MrTwosheds
Nah, just a case of different things triggering it for different people.
Well that's how it works with me, I cannot identify any specific substances that "cause" migraine in my physiology in a demonstrable manner, but I can prevent my migraines from developing by consuming certain foodstuffs, potatoes or oats are the best, ignore my 40 years or so of very painful personal research if you wish, you obviously have no need for it.
For those who do, the thing to watch out for is the "unpleasant" hunger like sensation in your stomach, this is the start of this type of migraine, feed it potatoes/porridge/rice even if you don't really feel like eating them. This may well save you from ending up rolling around in bed moaning in the dark.
Recipe for coconut porridge going on the recipe thread :)

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:49 am
by TnT
MrTwosheds wrote:Well my own personal lifelong experience of migraine rather implies the opposite is more accurate. That its what you haven't eaten that is far more likely to be a trigger for a migraine. Went though all this allergy stuff as a kid, utterly inconclusive in my opinion.
It took many more years and personal control over what I was eating to come to the conclusion that my major trigger is not eating enough starchy white carbohydrate foods such as potatoes or rice (at the right time). Now I am actually able to prevent them from occurring at all, or at least from becoming debilitatingly painful.
Possible, low blood sugar problem? I hope you had that looked into.
Low Sugar and Headaches

Re: Interesting Article Thread v.2

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:52 pm
by GSH
Security theater almost blew up an airport. And these were the 'professionals'.

-- GSH