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Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:44 pm
by Zenophas
GolemJR14 wrote:why cant we come to agreement, bze is trash and bz1 1.5 is so amazing. i thin 1.5 is somthing worth dieing for =P
You seriously need to consider changing your priorities in life, kiddo. You know like: Getting a job, supporting yourself, finding a nice guy/girl, how ot properly put on a condom, learning how to drive...

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:58 pm
by Ded10c
Apollo wrote:A mod that ruins the original game and pretends to be an official patch by using a name as if made by the copyright holder, and has the cd check disabled is not just a mod, it's priracy. :P :lol:
- It is a patch by definition.
- Not once does it claim to be official.
- 1.5 requires to you have a copy of BZ already.

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:16 pm
by Apollo
AHadley wrote:
Apollo wrote:A mod that ruins the original game and pretends to be an official patch by using a name as if made by the copyright holder, and has the cd check disabled is not just a mod, it's priracy. :P :lol:
- It is a patch by definition.
- Not once does it claim to be official.
- 1.5 requires to you have a copy of BZ already.
Show us the license for this 2012 patch or it's warez by any definition.
Patches are legal. :P

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:28 pm
by Ded10c
It's not illegal to remove a CD check, therefore no license is needed.

Patches fix bugs. That is quite literally the *only* defining factor.

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:22 pm
by Nielk1
AHadley wrote:It's not illegal to remove a CD check, therefore no license is needed.

Patches fix bugs. That is quite literally the *only* defining factor.
So long as it doesn't involve any sort of encryption or it was done before the DMCA.

So, the next question is what is Apollo going to pull out his ass next. I can understand the reason for so doggedly wanting to call 1.5 a mod, but the reason doesn't justify the lengths gone to.

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:14 am
by Apollo
The cd check is part of the copyright protection, removing it makes it warez thus illegal but considering how the source was obtained, the executable is illegal for that alone.

Nielk1 likes to twist words to fit his agenda, he's not interested in the truth when lies serve him better.

You two horse $hit attorneys looking for work spinning tall tails?

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:39 pm
by Ded10c
No, we're both software developers who know what the word "patch" means.

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:40 pm
by Apollo
You just got out of high school and i doubt he has a programming degree.
I have clothes olders than the both of you.
You wouldn't know what a patch is if a Judge told you.

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:31 pm
by Nielk1
Apollo wrote:Nielk1 likes to twist words to fit his agenda, he's not interested in the truth when lies serve him better.
Most ironic statement ever on this board.
Apollo wrote:You just got out of high school and i doubt he has a programming degree.
I have clothes olders than the both of you.
You wouldn't know what a patch is if a Judge told you.
You're clothes are clearly old enough to be senile then.

I graduated Drexel University's College of Engineering magna cum laude with a Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science. I have worked 2 developer jobs so far, the first in the defense industry and the second where I am now in, what is it, pharmaceuticals? Something like that.

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:36 pm
by MrTwosheds
:lol: Guns n Drugs :lol:

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:47 pm
by Ded10c
Apollo wrote:Nielk1 likes to twist words to fit his agenda, he's not interested in the truth when lies serve him better.
Since Nielk pointed it out, expand. What agenda?

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:49 pm
by Apollo
Too many drugs. hehe
Next he'll hold up a bank then claim, it was his money in the first place.
Congrats on your BA now take law and see what you got wrong. ;)

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:02 pm
by Ded10c
Find and cite a law that says, in no uncertain terms, that removing a CD-check makes 1.5 specifically not a patch.

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:03 pm
by Nielk1
Actually, its SCIENCE, not ART.

You and Spock are a lot alike. Anyone who is not in line with your agenda is evil and must have some nefarious agenda of their own, even if you cant identify it.

Re: BZ's Mag Arena

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:11 pm
by Ded10c
Nielk1 wrote:You and Spock are a lot alike. Anyone who is not in line with your agenda is evil and must have some nefarious agenda of their own, even if you cant identify it.
"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."