Interesting Article Thread v.2

[Red Spot]

You already mentioned there is a symbol just like the one suggested, use that and buy a keyboard that has a key pre-set to use it (you ask Logitech for that). €20,- cost to adapt

[MrTwosheds]

Ok write a post using t' Cyrillic characters if its so easy then and Ill see if I can read it here.
You will probably need a Russian character set loaded...Keyboards just send numbers, what gets printed on screen is a different matter.
There is a reason why most Japanese web sites just look like a mess to us. This guy wants to change everyone else's computer systems so he can get a few more words into his tweets.

[Ded10c]

I regularly use unconventional punctuation marks like the interrobang, percontation point and irony mark. How do you suppose I cope?

[MrTwosheds]

Please tell.

There is a very good case for a much reduced standard character set for use in mobile devices, I cannot be the only person who finds navigating between 3 or 4 screens just to type something legible somewhat annoying.

[Ded10c]

I memorise the unicode. Type it and hit alt+x.

Mobile devices, yes. That I can understand. But when there is an entire keyboard, with three possible characters per key, the argument that there isn't the space can hardly be made. So few of the keys have a valid third function - off the top of my head, there's the ellipsis on the period key, an acute accent on each vowel and a few consonants, the euro and the grave accent. Perhaps CTRL+ALT+1 could be the interrobang (‽) and CTRL+ALT+/ the percontation point (That comes out as "⸮" for me, whereas it should be a reversed question mark. It worked last month ).

[MrTwosheds]

Its not that there isn't the space, its about Standards, you cannot just go about altering the standard character sets without consequences, Practically the whole IT industry would need to alter their products in some way in order to avoid the problems doing so would cause. No doubt the EU spent an incredible amount of our money persuading the industry to put the €-sign onto keyboards and it will probably still be there long after the Euro ceases to be a currency at all. Twitter will be long forgotten by the time such a change actually gets implemented.
You could put Th on the keyboard, but it still won't be in most of the fonts, so what happens when you use it?

[Ded10c]

Ћ ћ

As the article noted, this character already exists. It's already in the fonts, as you can see by the fact that I've posted it above.

[Red Spot]

Please tell.

There is a very good case for a much reduced standard character set for use in mobile devices, I cannot be the only person who finds navigating between 3 or 4 screens just to type something legible somewhat annoying.

Thats why I got the Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro, which has its own keyboard build in.

[MrTwosheds]

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/ ... icles/5985
Maybe this is all he needs then.

[Iron_Maiden]

Glad we can put this to rest.

http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman- ... 43188.html

[Iron_Maiden]

Cool scientific finding

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... lanet.html

[Ded10c]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076

So internet censorship is now a very real and present threat in England. It doesn't matter that it's "only pornography" or "opt-out". The kind of filter they're going to apply is one that blocks by keywords; the same kind they have at many schools or workplaces that blocks sites for a single occurrence of the word "boob". Never mind the inevitable government abuse, which to my knowledge has happened in every country to have erected such a filter.

[MrTwosheds]

It would be nice to see what they actually plan to do, are we getting a Great Firewall of Whitehall? Chinese style, or is this just electioneering bluster and bull dung, promising wholesome sounding things that they cannot actually be blamed for failing deliver in the end. I suspect the latter as I just cannot see them being competent enough to do it properly. They probably figured it was one area where they could come up smelling of roses which ever way the **** flows.

[Ded10c]

This smells particularly fishy when you consider Miller's meeting with assorted providers last month.

[MrTwosheds]

We can be sure that they are proposing this with the best of intentions...and very little understanding of the actual technicalities. I suspect once the full cost of this reactionary policy becomes evident, then second thoughts will be had. It all very well for repressive regimes to waste their peoples money on enforcing a cultural viewpoint and suppressing free speech in this way, but in a profit obsessed democracy such expensive oversight is unlikely to ever be maintained. The cost alone of maintaining a staff of porn-hating-porn-surfing censors to keep a constant track of sites should ensure a quick post election failure of this policy. (Imagines an army of teenagers surfing down and reporting porn in return for their unemployment benefit...Ok this works! )
Its a safe election promise, succeed and you "protect the children" fail and you protect free speech. Anyone likely to openly oppose it won't be voting Conservative anyway and other political parties will not want to be seen opposing its apparent aims. No need to worry about free speech anyway as nobody has any opinions worth hearing anymore.

Whoooo! Vote for us or the scary internet perverts will get your kids!
That, unfortunately, is about as intellectual as politics gets here these days, we actually need this and more of it, we need to be repressed, oppressed and victimised, its the only way to provoke people into actually thinking about what they really value.