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[BZ2 1.3.6.4y patch released for crig upgrade fixes and more. See http://bzforum.matesfamily.org/viewforum.php?f=7]
[04:41] == Vassili [webchat@cnv94-8-78-247-103-135.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Bz2
[04:41] -ChanServ- (#Bz2) Welcome to the Battlezone II Lobby.
[04:41] <Vassili> hum hum
[04:41] <Vassili> Commando was writing about firewall,
[04:41] <Vassili> i do an alt-tab
[04:42] <Vassili> and my AMD GC decide to crash the computer
[04:42] <Vassili> it's frustrating, but ok, that make me taht often, no problem
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[04:42] <@GSH> Tip: people don't use 'GC' as an abbreviation in English. GPU is more commonly used to refer to your graphics hardware.
[04:42] <Vash> Hola gente
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[04:43] <Vassili> exept i loose my 40 firefox open pages and no sessio nrestauration !
[04:43] <@Nielk1> GC makes me think Garbage Collection
[04:43] <Vassili> GPU is the graphic processor no?
[04:43] <@GSH> Well, some GPUs are now on the same die as the CPU. So, it's not a "card" for many anymore
[04:44] <Vassili> in France we say CPU for the processor, and GPU for the graphic processor...
[04:45] <Vassili> so sorry to all but i don't have read what you possibly write after Commando say firewall work without BZ2
[04:45] <@GSH> <{BzII}Commando> It will most likely refuse to connect
[04:45] <@GSH> *** Signoff: Vassili (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[04:45] <@GSH> <{BzII}Commando> i banned tom via firewall policy and he lagged out
[04:45] <@GSH> > You have to be client/server to do that
[04:45] <@GSH> > You have to be client (and ban the server), or server (and ban any client)
[04:45] <@GSH> to do that
[04:45] <@GSH> <Zero_Angel> oh right, everything goes through the host
[04:45] <@GSH> *** Vassili (webchat@cnv94-8-78-247-103-135.fbx.proxad.net) has joined channel
[04:45] <@GSH> #Bz2
[04:45] <Vassili> thank!
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[04:46] <Commando> much easier to type from here
[04:46] <Vassili> yes, if a day i have money, i will buy and administrable switch
[04:46] <Commando> Your banlist only protects bz2 not your connection
[04:46] <Commando> If you have port 17770 opened, people can attack you on that port, whether they are banned or not
[04:46] <Commando> that is where the firewall comes into play
[04:47] <Commando> People can ping you on that port, completely bypassing bz2
[04:47] <Vassili> i have buy one at "brocante" (if that exist i nenglish, i think not), but it's ****, no firewall, no NAT
[04:47] <Commando> I can post my example reg file, that adds a policy to ban an IP
[04:47] <Commando> don't need a hardware firewall
[04:47] <Commando> Windows firewall should suffice
[04:47] <Vassili> i never use firewall on my computer
[04:48] <Vassili> yes call me noob or whatever
[04:48] <Commando> you can tell it to reject connections from specific IPs
[04:48] <Commando> I banned Tom's ip, while he was in my game, he immediately lagged out
[04:48] <Vassili> hum it's strange
[04:48] <Commando> I banned him in windows firewall, not bz2
[04:48] <Vassili> normaly, a firewall do impossible to connect...
[04:49] <Commando> not if configured
[04:49] <Vassili> lol, you have DPI?
[04:49] <Commando> You can open port 17770 to 17772 in the firewall
[04:49] <Commando> but that leaves you where you are now
[04:49] <Commando> with that port wide open for dbag muffin to DoS
[04:50] <@GSH> Clients don't open 17770 by default. Only servers
[04:50] <Vassili> i have upnp disabled
[04:51] <Vassili> i cry my 40 firefox pages loosed :(
[04:51] <Vassili> it's like one year ofselection
[04:52] <Vassili> it's a strange bug..
[04:52] <Vassili> normaly if my PC crash, i can restore my last firefox session
[04:53] <@GSH> Vassili- get the SessionManager firefox plugin. Or invest in hardware that works
[04:53] <Vassili> last time i had invest in hardware with good reputation...
[04:54] <Vassili> i had buy this **** GC
[04:54] <Vassili> who are incompatible with win XP, and don't do what they must do on win 7
[04:54] <Zero_Angel> which graphics card?
[04:54] <Vassili> it's half of all the PC price!
[04:54] <Vassili> AMD
[04:55] <Zero_Angel> what model?
[04:55] <Vassili> i always had use Nvidia before, not by preference
[04:55] <Vassili> nvidia GC propose dualscreen for free
[04:55] <Vassili> AMD sell high price GC for trial screen, and dual don't work...
[04:55] <Zero_Angel> I'm not as big of a fan of AMD drivers, but I like the fact tha they dont deliberately limit the amount of screens you can use to 2 screens
[04:56] <Vassili> gné?
[04:56] <Vassili> they do the exact backward!
[04:57] <Vassili> where i had post a battlezone.log in bzforums...
[04:57] <Zero_Angel> I have an Nvidia 560Ti
[04:57] <Zero_Angel> I paid about $320 for it when I bought it
[04:57] <Zero_Angel> can only support a maximum of 2 screens
[04:58] <Commando> I have a 650TI
[04:58] <Vassili> ah yes: http://vassili.org/img/Z-10.log
[04:58] <Vassili> i have a lot of low price nvidia
[04:58] <Vassili> because i never had buy GC
[04:58] <Vassili> and alot of nvidia card i have do dualscreen
[04:59] <Zero_Angel> Vassili: this is a 'crash on game load' AV?
[04:59] <Vassili> no no
[04:59] <Vassili> it's a crash when i switch too fast beetwen desktop and fullscreen
[04:59] <Vassili> yes "too fast" is a strange expression for an immediate fact
[05:00] <Vassili> that crash my ubuntu 11 too
[05:00] <Vassili> when i login, X crash
[05:00] <Vassili> that was working before, with 3 screens, i think i must plugg the 3 for non-crash
[05:01] <Zero_Angel> do you run bz2 across all 3 screens at once?
[05:02] <Vassili> ahh, the old good time where i was playing Minecraft, Battlezone II, Team Fortres 2, Age of empires: the conquerors expansion, in dual-screen..
[05:02] <Vassili> no ZA
[05:02] <Zero_Angel> I ran bz2 stretched across 2 screens but it was too disorienting because the crosshairs were split across both screens
[05:02] <Vassili> i said to you this **** don't work on 3
[05:02] <Vassili> that don't work well with 2, imagine!
[05:02] <Commando> Vas, check your PM
[05:02] <Commando> gave you an updated banlist
[05:02] <Vassili> i have one desktop+ like a second desktop without taskbar
[05:02] <Commando> that I did not post publically
[05:03] <Commando> You using ubuntu as opposed to Windows?
[05:03] <Vassili> what do you mean by opposed?
[05:03] <Commando> instead of
[05:03] <Vassili> no i use twice
[05:03] <Commando> twice, that a linux distro?
[05:04] <Vassili> but in fact actually i am 95% of tiem on windows XP 64 bits
[05:04] <Vassili> no twice the english word for say i use both OS? windows XP and ubuntu 11
[05:05] <@GSH> Goodnight, all
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[05:05] <Vassili> Goodnig...
[05:06] == Commando [~commando@70.189.105.113] has quit [Quit: Later!]
[05:06] <Vassili> i have a
[05:06] <Vassili> ok...
[05:06] <Vassili> what i have missunderstand with "twice" who make you run out of me?
[05:08] <Zero_Angel> its ok, gsh always runs away from my love too
[05:09] <Vassili> and commando?
[05:11] <Vassili> <Zero_Angel> I ran bz2 stretched across 2 screens but it was too disorienting because the crosshairs were split across both screens
[05:11] <Vassili> naaa when you have just ~4cm beetwen your two screens,
[05:12] <Vassili> it'sfast for your brai nunderstand it
[05:12] <Vassili> in TF2 for example is like cheat
[05:12] <Vassili> when the guy is nicked between your two screens, shoot ^^
[05:13] <Vassili> *splited seems a better verb in this case :)
[05:13] <Vassili> *splitted
[05:14] <Vassili> the big advantage with dual-screen in BZ2
[05:14] <Vassili> is you see more at sides
[05:15] <@Nielk1> or you could just manually set the window height to low
[05:15] <Vassili> so maybe with 3-4 screens you will see behind you :D
[05:15] <Vassili> i play fullscreen
[05:16] <@Nielk1> if you are claiming an advantage to something, considering that there is omnidirectional radar, I dont really think FoV is an advantage
[05:16] <Vassili> in AOE2/RA2 it's a big advantage, 2* more of ground viewing!
[05:16] <@Nielk1> its not worth trying to discuss it with you :/
[05:16] <Vassili> fov? Field of view?
[05:17] <Vassili> yes i was waiting this reflection ^^
[05:19] <Vassili> Do you play RA2/AOC Nielk1?
[05:19] <@Nielk1> its materially irrrelevent
[05:19] <Vassili> irrelevant, no?
[05:21] <Vassili> i think you are totaly not an open-source-only system guy (like rms), so explain what do you mean by materially irrelevant
[05:22] <Vassili> It's sure a guy with your avatar look will not play video games from earth ^^
[05:23] <Vassili> *looking the avatar...*
[05:23] <Vassili> Hey, it's possible to do a photo like yours without computer special effects!
[05:23] <Vassili> it's maybe really you ^^
[05:30] <Vassili> you are scary of loosing 1 minute with me
[05:31] <Zero_Angel> Vassili: having an 8cm gap in between the screens actually does not help with aiming
[05:31] <Vassili> what distance doyou have between your eyes andyour screen?
[05:32] <Vassili> because if you superpose them you win 50% of width
[05:32] <Vassili> but at short distance it's very disturbing
[05:32] <Vassili> (the depth difference beetween the two screen)
[05:34] <Vassili> and i suppose, like me you use screens only atshort distance (me it's like 50cm)
[05:34] <Vassili> i found it's normal distance, but people must think it's too close
[05:35] <Zero_Angel> I sit about 65cm, or 2 feet away from the screen
[05:35] <Vassili> k me too when i don't play
[05:36] <Zero_Angel> I think triple screen gaming would be the best, because if I wanted to see whats on the left of me, I could flick my eyes to the left or right to see whats on the other screen
[05:36] <Zero_Angel> the in-game equivalent of turning your head to look to see whats at the side of you
[05:37] <Vassili> sure tha tcan be...
[05:37] <Vassili> what the word
[05:37] <Vassili> immersive
[05:37] <Zero_Angel> yeah
[05:38] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/cp_orange_x30012.jpg (without the screens border, yes)
[05:38] <@Nielk1> Vassili, no, my avatar is not me, I am not literally MacGyver
[05:39] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/TF2-3.jpg <<<i have putsa bikini girl into my paint TF2 option, and a guy was using a text, the two together was a great discover!
[05:45] <Zero_Angel> Interesting fact. I would also like to reveal that I am not Alucard, son of Dracula despite what my steam avatar would tell you
[05:45] <Vassili> ^^
[05:45] <@Nielk1> color me shocked
[05:46] <Zero_Angel> it is a common mistake
[05:46] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/AOK148.jpg
[05:54] <Vassili> if i say "Slasherpike", do that mean something for you?
[06:00] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/2011-06-08_16.29.17.png
[06:01] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/2011-09-06_22.45.43.png
[06:07] <Vassili> Slasherpike is the Minecraft nickname of one of the two Tom on BZ2
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[06:26] == znsw [~znsw@cpe-66-108-42-175.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #Bz2
[06:26] <znsw> hi
[06:26] <Vassili> hello
[06:27] <znsw> awesome everyone still here
[06:27] <Vassili> no
[06:27] <znsw> but i see almost no one playing
[06:27] <Vassili> the others sleep
[06:27] <znsw> ohhhh
[06:27] <Vassili> me i often play
[06:27] <znsw> that explains everything
[06:27] <Vassili> yes me too i had point the fact they are always 10 here and never answer/play
[06:27] <Vassili> they don't like it
[06:27] <znsw> cool cant host a game idk why not but i still feel like playing
[06:28] <znsw> they dont like playing the game
[06:28] <znsw> ?
[06:28] <Vassili> they don't like when somebody say they are still here for nothing
[06:28] <znsw> oh but are they on stand by or sumthing
[06:28] <Vassili> i am looking old Minecraft screens and i go bed, sorry :(
[06:29] <znsw> its ok i dont blame u
[06:29] <Vassili> here it's 6h29
[06:29] <znsw> of what stand by
[06:29] <znsw> ?
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[06:29] <Vassili> you have 00h29 (yes you say 12h29 pm lol)
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[06:29] <znsw> well ima go to bed instad then
[06:29] <@Nielk1> Vassili, why do you assume people arent here
[06:29] <@Nielk1> watching everything you say
[06:29] <@Nielk1> judging you
[06:29] <Vassili> you know why Nielk
[06:30] <Zero_Angel> always judging
[06:30] <Zero_Angel> always watching
[06:30] <Zero_Angel> in the shadows
[06:30] <znsw> -_- guys
[06:30] <znsw> chill lol
[06:30] <znsw> i was only wondering tho
[06:30] <Vassili> yes i am always watching
[06:30] <Vassili> in a game i play years ago,
[06:30] <Vassili> my nickname was the log guy
[06:30] <@Nielk1> nothing disgusts me more than people who claim to know the motives of others, or the status of others, and is just talking out their ass
[06:31] <Vassili> who can paste every people writings from the begin to the game
[06:31] <@Nielk1> for example, we are here
[06:31] <@Nielk1> we just dont see value in conversing with ya
[06:31] <Vassili> yea yea Nilek i now i disgust you
[06:31] <Vassili> i disgust GSh too ,and others
[06:31] <Zero_Angel> Well, I think there are some people who do not actively play bz2 anymore but like to check in once in awhile to see whats new
[06:31] <Vassili> yeaa i know i am judging again ^^
[06:31] <Vassili> *Nielk
[06:31] <znsw> ahh ok
[06:31] <Zero_Angel> Me, for example. I have my IRC client logged on to about 10 different chats at once
[06:31] <Zero_Angel> but I only really check on about 4 of them frequently
[06:32] <@Nielk1> Vassili, does that mean that you just admitted that you statethe mtives or statuses of people that you ahve no way to know?
[06:32] <@Nielk1> for if you say I am disgusted by you, that must be the case
[06:32] <znsw> but see the conversation is what keeps people wanting to play even more because they can build a connection and have even more fun playing
[06:32] <@Nielk1> as I said I am disgusted by people that do that
[06:32] <Vassili> answ
[06:32] <Vassili> stop, you speak to a wall ^^
[06:32] <Vassili> *znsw
[06:32] <@Nielk1> znsw, I am very nice and personable, dont worry about Vassili
[06:33] <@Nielk1> he just got highly insulted that we wcouldnt understand his broken english one day and hasnt let it go since
[06:33] <Vassili> first time i said i always see people wh osleep here, and i will play
[06:33] <Vassili> somebody tell me, "we are not here for pleasure you"
[06:33] <@Nielk1> we aren't
[06:33] <znsw> ....... ok i guess
[06:33] <@Nielk1> we're here to help people that need it
[06:33] <Vassili> ah yes.;
[06:33] <znsw> but isnt the point of multiplayer to talk to one another
[06:34] <znsw> dosent really matter if our english sucks n all
[06:34] <Vassili> but you don't accept feedback
[06:34] <@Nielk1> that's correct znsw
[06:34] <@Nielk1> it doesnt matter, if you dont get all bent out ocf shape if we cant understand you
[06:34] <@Nielk1> Vassili here had issues with the fact we could not properly understand him and became quite hostile
[06:34] <Vassili> yes
[06:34] <znsw> then try a different way of communication
[06:35] <znsw> in my situations i always try that
[06:35] <Vassili> sure the fact of the irc topic have always one BZ2 patch versions retarded, his my bad english fault
[06:35] <@Nielk1> pictionary?
[06:35] <znsw> n it works out fine
[06:35] <znsw> no
[06:35] <@Nielk1> no vassili, with your most recent statement the fault is your attitute
[06:35] <@Nielk1> not your english
[06:35] <Vassili> sure, and you will penalise everybody just for me?
[06:35] <Vassili> nice
[06:36] <@Nielk1> no, just you
[06:36] <znsw> explain your thoughts a different way other than disrespectful
[06:36] <@Nielk1> There was a time for that znsw
[06:36] <Vassili> you write that to me znsw?
[06:36] <znsw> ok my point wasnt to create an argument between u guys
[06:36] <@Nielk1> but I received enough disrespect from Vassili that I have no reason to give him benefit of the doubt
[06:36] <@Nielk1> I already know how he is going to act
[06:36] <Vassili> lol
[06:36] <Vassili> this good joke
[06:36] <@Nielk1> I already know he is going to call us retarded if we don't understand hyim
[06:36] <@Nielk1> I already know he is going to complain aboout things that are not wrong
[06:37] <Vassili> it's GSH who had insult me 4 times in 1 minute
[06:37] <Vassili> not me
[06:37] <@Nielk1> I also know he is going to woneer why people are asleep when its 12:30 AM in y timezone
[06:37] <Vassili> lol
[06:37] <Vassili> what a big joke
[06:37] <Vassili> i never call u retarded
[06:37] <Vassili> GSH do
[06:37] <@Nielk1> Vassili, he did that after you were abrasive
[06:37] <Vassili> (of me)
[06:37] <@Nielk1> you were problematic, and inceccently anoying
[06:37] <@Nielk1> thus, you got that responce
[06:37] <znsw> .......
[06:37] <@Nielk1> we no longer have the patience for such things
[06:37] <znsw> that wasnt my point guys
[06:37] <Vassili> stop lieing pelase, you smell like ahadley
[06:37] <znsw> really it wasnt
[06:38] <Vassili> i say you sleep ateverytime on this irc, not at midnight
[06:38] <@Nielk1> oh yes, that evil liar ahadley, who didnt bend to your threat to not translate the wiki
[06:38] <znsw> i think the best way to handle this is with a deathmatch
[06:38] <@Nielk1> and who, OH MY GOD, uses skype
[06:38] <znsw> maybe that can help you guys out
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[06:38] <Vassili> "who didnt bend to your threat to not translate the wiki"
[06:38] <Vassili> lol another big lie
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[06:38] <Vassili> you must learn to read your own language
[06:38] <@Nielk1> lol
[06:39] <Vassili> he have do it
[06:39] <@Nielk1> Vassili
[06:39] <Vassili> using skype is a fact
[06:39] <@Nielk1> threatening to not translate the wiki simply means that we close the translation project
[06:39] <@Nielk1> additionaly, the fact you nigh on attacked Ahadley because he uses Skype
[06:39] <znsw> at least i got this chatroom to talk
[06:39] <Vassili> tell skype is better of all and liberty is impossible
[06:39] <znsw> lol
[06:39] <Vassili> say it's cool to give information to spying governement
[06:39] <Vassili> it's another thing
[06:39] <@Nielk1> yes, znsw, Vassili really thinks AH is a liar because he uses Skype, among a few other things
[06:40] <Vassili> yes
[06:40] <@Nielk1> and one final note before I get some sleep
[06:40] <Vassili> say lies
[06:40] <Vassili> i don't had say that..
[06:40] <Vassili> but i don't care
[06:40] <Vassili> i will just start to cal lyou Sly2
[06:40] <@Nielk1> bzforum.matesfamily.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2068#p35299
[06:40] <znsw> yup a deathmatch is in session tomorrow
[06:40] <@Nielk1> bzforum.matesfamily.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2068#p35299http://
[06:40] <@Nielk1> damnit
[06:40] <@Nielk1> http://bzforum.matesfamily.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2068#p35299
[06:40] <znsw> ima try n host it
[06:40] <Vassili> not your fault zn :)
[06:41] <@Nielk1> that is your post threatening to not translate the wiki because you didn't like what AHadley was saying
[06:41] <@Nielk1> to which his reply was one of not giving a flying ****, so that probably burned a bit
[06:41] <Vassili> Nielk, read the thread you post in link
[06:41] <@Nielk1> I did
[06:42] <znsw> lol gn guys at least i made this chat room moving a little
[06:42] <@Nielk1> also, you can't even comapre languages properly
[06:42] <@Nielk1> anyway, I have to get to sleep, becauss as one of the many American players of this game, its the next day
[06:42] <@Nielk1> and I ahve WORK
[06:42] <Vassili> you will not found a trace where i say "you use skype so you..etc" etc...
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[06:42] <@Nielk1> which, btw, is why you say people just sit around
[06:42] <@Nielk1> because of the timezone difference
[06:42] <@Nielk1> you need to remember that
[06:42] <Vassili> that is your post threatening to not translate the wiki because you didn't like what AHadley was saying
[06:42] <Vassili> lol 2 seconds ago yo uwass saying AH have never start this project and i don't liek taht
[06:42] <@Nielk1> Vassili
[06:43] <@Nielk1> I have the PMs from AH between you and he
[06:43] <Vassili> yes i know you have say by "he use skype and..etc"
[06:43] <@Nielk1> I know that ever since he said he uses skype you have treated him like an enemy
[06:43] <@Nielk1> additionaly I can see that you are trying to force him, in that topic, to think the way you do by threatening to not translate teh wiki
[06:43] <@Nielk1> simple fact is, we dont care
[06:43] <Vassili> but i think too you don't havethe full pm because you seems sure of what you say on me
[06:43] <@Nielk1> we would rather close the translation project then have it be incomplete
[06:43] <@Nielk1> Vassili, I am going to say this
[06:43] <@Nielk1> ONCE
[06:44] <@Nielk1> You cleary have no idea what I am saying, or what you are saying, ebcause your statements in reply are enitrely nonsequitor and meaningless
[06:44] <@Nielk1> so either A: you are not understanding what I am saying and are replying improperly
[06:44] <@Nielk1> or you are understanding what I am saying and are horrible at replying
[06:44] <@Nielk1> or I guess, both
[06:44] <@Nielk1> whatever it be, I care not, but I am not going to espend the energy
[06:45] <Vassili> sure i can't do translation ^^
[06:45] <@Nielk1> you aren't worth the effordx
[06:45] <@Nielk1> *effort
[06:45] <@Nielk1> so, goodnight
[06:45] <Vassili> continue to think taht it's perfect
[06:45] <@Nielk1> ive got work tomarrow
[06:45] <@Nielk1> because I have a life, and a job, and a purpose in life rather than just bitching at people about unimportant dribble
[06:45] <Vassili> go work
[06:45] <@Nielk1> good day
[06:45] <Vassili> and stop lie
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[06:46] <@Nielk1> I am going to sleep you incompetent boob
[06:46] <Vassili> because I have a life, and a job, and a purpose in life rather than just bitching at people about unimportant dribble, ohhh nice comaprison with SLY
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