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[BZ2 1.3.6.4y patch released for crig upgrade fixes and more. See http://bzforum.matesfamily.org/viewforum.php?f=7]
[04:41] == Vassili [webchat@cnv94-8-78-247-103-135.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Bz2
[04:41] -ChanServ- (#Bz2) Welcome to the Battlezone II Lobby.
[04:41] <Vassili> hum hum
[04:41] <Vassili> Commando was writing about firewall,
[04:41] <Vassili> i do an alt-tab
[04:42] <Vassili> and my AMD GC decide to crash the computer
[04:42] <Vassili> it's frustrating, but ok, that make me taht often, no problem
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[04:42] <@GSH> Tip: people don't use 'GC' as an abbreviation in English. GPU is more commonly used to refer to your graphics hardware.
[04:42] <Vash> Hola gente
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[04:43] <Vassili> exept i loose my 40 firefox open pages and no sessio nrestauration !
[04:43] <@Nielk1> GC makes me think Garbage Collection
[04:43] <Vassili> GPU is the graphic processor no?
[04:43] <@GSH> Well, some GPUs are now on the same die as the CPU. So, it's not a "card" for many anymore
[04:44] <Vassili> in France we say CPU for the processor, and  GPU for the graphic processor...
[04:45] <Vassili> so sorry to all but i don't have read what you possibly write after Commando say firewall work without BZ2
[04:45] <@GSH> <{BzII}Commando> It will most likely refuse to connect
[04:45] <@GSH> *** Signoff: Vassili (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[04:45] <@GSH> <{BzII}Commando> i banned tom via firewall policy and he lagged out
[04:45] <@GSH> > You have to be client/server to do that
[04:45] <@GSH> > You have to be client (and ban the server), or server (and ban any client)
[04:45] <@GSH>    to do that
[04:45] <@GSH> <Zero_Angel> oh right, everything goes through the host
[04:45] <@GSH> *** Vassili (webchat@cnv94-8-78-247-103-135.fbx.proxad.net) has joined channel
[04:45] <@GSH>     #Bz2
[04:45] <Vassili> thank!
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[04:46] <Commando> much easier to type from here
[04:46] <Vassili> yes, if a day i have money, i will buy and administrable switch
[04:46] <Commando> Your banlist only protects bz2 not your connection
[04:46] <Commando> If you have port 17770 opened, people can attack you on that port, whether they are banned or not
[04:46] <Commando> that is where the firewall comes into play
[04:47] <Commando> People can ping you on that port, completely bypassing bz2
[04:47] <Vassili> i have buy one at "brocante" (if that exist i nenglish, i think not), but it's ****, no firewall, no NAT
[04:47] <Commando> I can post my example reg file, that adds a policy to ban an IP
[04:47] <Commando> don't need a hardware firewall
[04:47] <Commando> Windows firewall should suffice
[04:47] <Vassili> i never use firewall on my computer
[04:48] <Vassili> yes call me noob or whatever
[04:48] <Commando> you can tell it to reject connections from specific IPs
[04:48] <Commando> I banned Tom's ip, while he was in my game, he immediately lagged out
[04:48] <Vassili> hum it's strange
[04:48] <Commando> I banned him in windows firewall, not bz2
[04:48] <Vassili> normaly, a firewall do impossible to connect...
[04:49] <Commando> not if configured
[04:49] <Vassili> lol, you have DPI?
[04:49] <Commando> You can open port 17770 to 17772 in the firewall
[04:49] <Commando> but that leaves you where you are now
[04:49] <Commando> with that port wide open for dbag muffin to DoS
[04:50] <@GSH> Clients don't open 17770 by default. Only servers
[04:50] <Vassili> i have upnp disabled
[04:51] <Vassili> i cry my 40 firefox pages loosed :(
[04:51] <Vassili> it's like one year ofselection
[04:52] <Vassili> it's a strange bug..
[04:52] <Vassili> normaly if my PC crash, i can restore my last firefox session
[04:53] <@GSH> Vassili- get the SessionManager firefox plugin. Or invest in hardware that works
[04:53] <Vassili> last time i had invest in hardware with good reputation...
[04:54] <Vassili> i had buy this **** GC
[04:54] <Vassili> who are incompatible with win XP, and don't do what they must do on win 7
[04:54] <Zero_Angel> which graphics card?
[04:54] <Vassili> it's half of all the PC price!
[04:54] <Vassili> AMD
[04:55] <Zero_Angel> what model?
[04:55] <Vassili> i always had use Nvidia before, not by preference
[04:55] <Vassili> nvidia GC propose dualscreen for free
[04:55] <Vassili> AMD sell high price GC for trial screen, and dual don't work...
[04:55] <Zero_Angel> I'm not as big of a fan of AMD drivers, but I like the fact tha they dont deliberately limit the amount of screens you can use to 2 screens
[04:56] <Vassili> gné?
[04:56] <Vassili> they do the exact backward!
[04:57] <Vassili> where i had post a battlezone.log in bzforums...
[04:57] <Zero_Angel> I have an Nvidia 560Ti
[04:57] <Zero_Angel> I paid about $320 for it when I bought it
[04:57] <Zero_Angel> can only support a maximum of 2 screens
[04:58] <Commando> I have a 650TI
[04:58] <Vassili> ah yes: http://vassili.org/img/Z-10.log
[04:58] <Vassili> i have a lot of low price nvidia
[04:58] <Vassili> because i never had buy GC
[04:58] <Vassili> and alot of nvidia card i have do dualscreen
[04:59] <Zero_Angel> Vassili: this is a 'crash on game load' AV?
[04:59] <Vassili> no no
[04:59] <Vassili> it's a crash when i switch too fast beetwen desktop and fullscreen
[04:59] <Vassili> yes "too fast" is a strange expression for an immediate fact
[05:00] <Vassili> that crash my ubuntu 11 too
[05:00] <Vassili> when i login, X crash
[05:00] <Vassili> that was working before, with 3 screens, i think i must plugg the 3 for non-crash
[05:01] <Zero_Angel> do you run bz2 across all 3 screens at once?
[05:02] <Vassili> ahh, the old good time where i was playing Minecraft, Battlezone II, Team Fortres 2, Age of empires: the conquerors expansion, in dual-screen..
[05:02] <Vassili> no ZA
[05:02] <Zero_Angel> I ran bz2 stretched across 2 screens but it was too disorienting because the crosshairs were split across both screens
[05:02] <Vassili> i said to you this **** don't work on 3
[05:02] <Vassili> that don't work well with 2, imagine!
[05:02] <Commando> Vas, check your PM
[05:02] <Commando> gave you an updated banlist
[05:02] <Vassili> i have one desktop+ like a second desktop without taskbar
[05:02] <Commando> that I did not post publically
[05:03] <Commando> You using ubuntu as opposed to Windows?
[05:03] <Vassili> what do you mean by opposed?
[05:03] <Commando> instead of
[05:03] <Vassili> no i use twice
[05:03] <Commando> twice, that a linux distro?
[05:04] <Vassili> but in fact actually i am 95% of tiem on windows XP 64 bits
[05:04] <Vassili> no twice the english word for say i use both OS? windows XP and ubuntu 11
[05:05] <@GSH> Goodnight, all
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[05:05] <Vassili> Goodnig...
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[05:06] <Vassili> i have a
[05:06] <Vassili> ok...
[05:06] <Vassili> what i have missunderstand with "twice" who make you run out of me?
[05:08] <Zero_Angel> its ok, gsh always runs away from my love too
[05:09] <Vassili> and commando?
[05:11] <Vassili> <Zero_Angel> I ran bz2 stretched across 2 screens but it was too disorienting because the crosshairs were split across both screens
[05:11] <Vassili> naaa when you have just ~4cm beetwen your two screens,
[05:12] <Vassili> it'sfast for your brai nunderstand it
[05:12] <Vassili> in TF2 for example is like cheat
[05:12] <Vassili> when the guy is nicked between your two screens, shoot ^^
[05:13] <Vassili> *splited seems a better verb in this case :)
[05:13] <Vassili> *splitted
[05:14] <Vassili> the big advantage with dual-screen in BZ2
[05:14] <Vassili> is you see more at sides
[05:15] <@Nielk1> or you could just manually set the window height to low
[05:15] <Vassili> so maybe with 3-4 screens you will see behind you :D
[05:15] <Vassili> i play fullscreen
[05:16] <@Nielk1> if you are claiming an advantage to something, considering that there is omnidirectional radar, I dont really think FoV is an advantage
[05:16] <Vassili> in AOE2/RA2 it's a big advantage, 2* more of ground viewing!
[05:16] <@Nielk1> its not worth trying to discuss it with you :/
[05:16] <Vassili> fov? Field of view?
[05:17] <Vassili> yes i was waiting this reflection ^^
[05:19] <Vassili> Do you play RA2/AOC Nielk1?
[05:19] <@Nielk1> its materially irrrelevent
[05:19] <Vassili> irrelevant, no?
[05:21] <Vassili> i think you are totaly not an open-source-only system guy (like rms), so explain what do you mean by materially irrelevant
[05:22] <Vassili> It's sure a guy with your avatar look will not play video games from earth ^^
[05:23] <Vassili> *looking the avatar...*
[05:23] <Vassili> Hey, it's possible to do a photo like yours without computer special effects!
[05:23] <Vassili> it's maybe really you ^^
[05:30] <Vassili> you are scary of loosing 1 minute with me
[05:31] <Zero_Angel> Vassili: having an 8cm gap in between the screens actually does not help with aiming
[05:31] <Vassili> what distance doyou have between your eyes andyour screen?
[05:32] <Vassili> because if you superpose them you win 50% of width
[05:32] <Vassili> but at short distance it's very disturbing
[05:32] <Vassili> (the depth difference beetween the two screen)
[05:34] <Vassili> and i suppose, like me you use screens only atshort distance (me it's like 50cm)
[05:34] <Vassili> i found it's normal distance, but people must think it's too close
[05:35] <Zero_Angel> I sit about 65cm, or 2 feet away from the screen
[05:35] <Vassili> k me too when i don't play
[05:36] <Zero_Angel> I think triple screen gaming would be the best, because if I wanted to see whats on the left of me, I could flick my eyes to the left or right to see whats on the other screen
[05:36] <Zero_Angel> the in-game equivalent of turning your head to look to see whats at the side of you
[05:37] <Vassili> sure tha tcan be...
[05:37] <Vassili> what the word
[05:37] <Vassili> immersive
[05:37] <Zero_Angel> yeah
[05:38] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/cp_orange_x30012.jpg (without the screens border, yes)
[05:38] <@Nielk1> Vassili, no, my avatar is not me, I am not literally MacGyver
[05:39] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/TF2-3.jpg <<<i have putsa bikini girl into my paint TF2 option, and a guy was using a text, the two together was a great discover!
[05:45] <Zero_Angel> Interesting fact. I would also like to reveal that I am not Alucard, son of Dracula despite what my steam avatar would tell you
[05:45] <Vassili> ^^
[05:45] <@Nielk1> color me shocked
[05:46] <Zero_Angel> it is a common mistake
[05:46] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/AOK148.jpg
[05:54] <Vassili> if i say "Slasherpike", do that mean something for you?
[06:00] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/2011-06-08_16.29.17.png
[06:01] <Vassili> http://vassili.org/img/2011-09-06_22.45.43.png
[06:07] <Vassili> Slasherpike is the Minecraft nickname of one of the two Tom on BZ2
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[06:26] <znsw> hi
[06:26] <Vassili> hello
[06:27] <znsw> awesome everyone still here
[06:27] <Vassili> no
[06:27] <znsw> but i see almost no one playing
[06:27] <Vassili> the others sleep
[06:27] <znsw> ohhhh
[06:27] <Vassili> me i often play
[06:27] <znsw> that explains everything
[06:27] <Vassili> yes me too i had point the fact they are always 10 here and never answer/play
[06:27] <Vassili> they don't like it
[06:27] <znsw> cool cant host a game idk why not but i still feel like playing
[06:28] <znsw> they dont like playing the game
[06:28] <znsw> ?
[06:28] <Vassili> they don't like when somebody say they are still here for nothing
[06:28] <znsw> oh but are they on stand by or sumthing
[06:28] <Vassili> i am looking old Minecraft screens and i go bed, sorry :(
[06:29] <znsw> its ok i dont blame u
[06:29] <Vassili> here it's 6h29
[06:29] <znsw> of what stand by
[06:29] <znsw> ?
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[06:29] <Vassili> you have 00h29 (yes you say 12h29 pm lol)
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[06:29] <znsw> well ima go to bed instad then
[06:29] <@Nielk1> Vassili, why do you assume people arent here
[06:29] <@Nielk1> watching everything you say
[06:29] <@Nielk1> judging you
[06:29] <Vassili> you know why Nielk
[06:30] <Zero_Angel> always judging
[06:30] <Zero_Angel> always watching
[06:30] <Zero_Angel> in the shadows
[06:30] <znsw> -_- guys
[06:30] <znsw> chill lol
[06:30] <znsw> i was only wondering tho
[06:30] <Vassili> yes i am always watching
[06:30] <Vassili> in a game i play years ago,
[06:30] <Vassili> my nickname was the log guy
[06:30] <@Nielk1> nothing disgusts me more than people who claim to know the motives of others, or the status of others, and is just talking out their ass
[06:31] <Vassili> who can paste every people writings from the begin to the game
[06:31] <@Nielk1> for example, we are here
[06:31] <@Nielk1> we just dont see value in conversing with ya
[06:31] <Vassili> yea yea Nilek i now i disgust you
[06:31] <Vassili> i disgust GSh too ,and others
[06:31] <Zero_Angel> Well, I think there are some people who do not actively play bz2 anymore but like to check in once in awhile to see whats new
[06:31] <Vassili> yeaa i know i am judging again ^^
[06:31] <Vassili> *Nielk
[06:31] <znsw> ahh ok
[06:31] <Zero_Angel> Me, for example. I have my IRC client logged on to about 10 different chats at once
[06:31] <Zero_Angel> but I only really check on about 4 of them frequently
[06:32] <@Nielk1> Vassili, does that mean that you just admitted that you statethe mtives or statuses of people that you ahve no way to know?
[06:32] <@Nielk1> for if you say I am disgusted by you, that must be the case
[06:32] <znsw> but see the conversation is what keeps people wanting to play even more because they can build a connection and have even more fun playing
[06:32] <@Nielk1> as I said I am disgusted by people that do that
[06:32] <Vassili> answ
[06:32] <Vassili> stop, you speak to a wall ^^
[06:32] <Vassili> *znsw
[06:32] <@Nielk1> znsw, I am very nice and personable, dont worry about Vassili
[06:33] <@Nielk1> he just got highly insulted that we wcouldnt understand his broken english one day and hasnt let it go since
[06:33] <Vassili> first time i said i always see people wh osleep here, and i will play
[06:33] <Vassili> somebody tell me, "we are not here for pleasure you"
[06:33] <@Nielk1> we aren't
[06:33] <znsw> ....... ok i guess
[06:33] <@Nielk1> we're here to help people that need it
[06:33] <Vassili> ah yes.;
[06:33] <znsw> but isnt the point of multiplayer to talk to one another
[06:34] <znsw> dosent really matter if our english sucks n all
[06:34] <Vassili> but you don't accept feedback
[06:34] <@Nielk1> that's correct znsw
[06:34] <@Nielk1> it doesnt matter, if you dont get all bent out ocf shape if we cant understand you
[06:34] <@Nielk1> Vassili here had issues with the fact we could not properly understand him and became quite hostile
[06:34] <Vassili> yes
[06:34] <znsw> then try a different way of communication
[06:35] <znsw> in my situations i always try that
[06:35] <Vassili> sure the fact of the irc topic have always one BZ2 patch versions retarded, his my bad english fault
[06:35] <@Nielk1> pictionary?
[06:35] <znsw> n it works out fine
[06:35] <znsw> no
[06:35] <@Nielk1> no vassili, with your most recent statement the fault is your attitute
[06:35] <@Nielk1> not your english
[06:35] <Vassili> sure, and you will penalise everybody just for me?
[06:35] <Vassili> nice
[06:36] <@Nielk1> no, just you
[06:36] <znsw> explain your thoughts a different way other than disrespectful
[06:36] <@Nielk1> There was a time for that znsw
[06:36] <Vassili> you write that to me znsw?
[06:36] <znsw> ok my point wasnt to create an argument between u guys
[06:36] <@Nielk1> but I received enough disrespect from Vassili that I have no reason to give him benefit of the doubt
[06:36] <@Nielk1> I already know how he is going to act
[06:36] <Vassili> lol
[06:36] <Vassili> this good joke
[06:36] <@Nielk1> I already know he is going to call us retarded if we don't understand hyim
[06:36] <@Nielk1> I already know he is going to complain aboout things that are not wrong
[06:37] <Vassili> it's GSH who had insult me 4 times in 1 minute
[06:37] <Vassili> not me
[06:37] <@Nielk1> I also know he is going to woneer why people are asleep when its 12:30 AM in y timezone
[06:37] <Vassili> lol
[06:37] <Vassili> what a big joke
[06:37] <Vassili> i never call u retarded
[06:37] <Vassili> GSH do
[06:37] <@Nielk1> Vassili, he did that after you were abrasive
[06:37] <Vassili> (of me)
[06:37] <@Nielk1> you were problematic, and inceccently anoying
[06:37] <@Nielk1> thus, you got that responce
[06:37] <znsw> .......
[06:37] <@Nielk1> we no longer have the patience for such things
[06:37] <znsw> that wasnt my point guys
[06:37] <Vassili> stop lieing pelase, you smell like ahadley
[06:37] <znsw> really it wasnt
[06:38] <Vassili> i say you sleep ateverytime on this irc, not at midnight
[06:38] <@Nielk1> oh yes, that evil liar ahadley, who didnt bend to your threat to not translate the wiki
[06:38] <znsw> i think the best way to handle this is with a deathmatch
[06:38] <@Nielk1> and who, OH MY GOD, uses skype
[06:38] <znsw> maybe that can help you guys out
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[06:38] <Vassili> "who didnt bend to your threat to not translate the wiki"
[06:38] <Vassili> lol another big lie
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[06:38] <Vassili> you must learn to read your own language
[06:38] <@Nielk1> lol
[06:39] <Vassili> he have do it
[06:39] <@Nielk1> Vassili
[06:39] <Vassili> using skype is a fact
[06:39] <@Nielk1> threatening to not translate the wiki simply means that we close the translation project
[06:39] <@Nielk1> additionaly, the fact you nigh on attacked Ahadley because he uses Skype
[06:39] <znsw> at least i got this chatroom to talk
[06:39] <Vassili> tell skype is better of all and liberty is impossible
[06:39] <znsw> lol
[06:39] <Vassili> say it's cool to give information to spying governement
[06:39] <Vassili> it's another thing
[06:39] <@Nielk1> yes, znsw, Vassili really thinks AH is a liar because he uses Skype, among a few other things
[06:40] <Vassili> yes
[06:40] <@Nielk1> and one final note before I get some sleep
[06:40] <Vassili> say lies
[06:40] <Vassili> i don't had say that..
[06:40] <Vassili> but i don't care
[06:40] <Vassili> i will just start to cal lyou Sly2
[06:40] <@Nielk1> bzforum.matesfamily.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2068#p35299
[06:40] <znsw> yup a deathmatch is in session tomorrow
[06:40] <@Nielk1> bzforum.matesfamily.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2068#p35299http://
[06:40] <@Nielk1> damnit
[06:40] <@Nielk1> http://bzforum.matesfamily.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2068#p35299
[06:40] <znsw> ima try n host it
[06:40] <Vassili> not your fault zn :)
[06:41] <@Nielk1> that is your post threatening to not translate the wiki because you didn't like what AHadley was saying
[06:41] <@Nielk1> to which his reply was one of not giving a flying ****, so that probably burned a bit
[06:41] <Vassili> Nielk, read the thread you post in link
[06:41] <@Nielk1> I did
[06:42] <znsw> lol gn guys at least i made this chat room moving a little
[06:42] <@Nielk1> also, you can't even comapre languages properly
[06:42] <@Nielk1> anyway, I have to get to sleep, becauss as one of the many American players of this game, its the next day
[06:42] <@Nielk1> and I ahve WORK
[06:42] <Vassili> you will not found a trace where i say "you use skype so you..etc" etc...
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[06:42] <@Nielk1> which, btw, is why you say people just sit around
[06:42] <@Nielk1> because of the timezone difference
[06:42] <@Nielk1> you need to remember that
[06:42] <Vassili>  that is your post threatening to not translate the wiki because you didn't like what AHadley was saying
[06:42] <Vassili> lol 2 seconds ago yo uwass saying AH have never start this project and i don't liek taht
[06:42] <@Nielk1> Vassili
[06:43] <@Nielk1> I have the PMs from AH between you and he
[06:43] <Vassili> yes i know you have say by "he use skype and..etc"
[06:43] <@Nielk1> I know that ever since he said he uses skype you have treated him like an enemy
[06:43] <@Nielk1> additionaly I can see that you are trying to force him, in that topic, to think the way you do by threatening to not translate teh wiki
[06:43] <@Nielk1> simple fact is, we dont care
[06:43] <Vassili> but i think too you don't havethe full pm because you seems sure of what you say on me
[06:43] <@Nielk1> we would rather close the translation project then have it be incomplete
[06:43] <@Nielk1> Vassili, I am going to say this
[06:43] <@Nielk1> ONCE
[06:44] <@Nielk1> You cleary have no idea what I am saying, or what you are saying, ebcause your statements in reply are enitrely nonsequitor and meaningless
[06:44] <@Nielk1> so either A: you are not understanding what I am saying and are replying improperly
[06:44] <@Nielk1> or you are understanding what I am saying and are horrible at replying
[06:44] <@Nielk1> or I guess, both
[06:44] <@Nielk1> whatever it be, I care not, but I am not going to espend the energy
[06:45] <Vassili> sure i can't do translation ^^
[06:45] <@Nielk1> you aren't worth the effordx
[06:45] <@Nielk1> *effort
[06:45] <@Nielk1> so, goodnight
[06:45] <Vassili> continue to think taht it's perfect
[06:45] <@Nielk1> ive got work tomarrow
[06:45] <@Nielk1> because I have a life, and a job, and a purpose in life rather than just bitching at people about unimportant dribble
[06:45] <Vassili> go work
[06:45] <@Nielk1> good day
[06:45] <Vassili> and stop lie
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[06:46] <@Nielk1> I am going to sleep you incompetent boob
[06:46] <Vassili> because I have a life, and a job, and a purpose in life rather than just bitching at people about unimportant dribble, ohhh nice comaprison with SLY
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Do you suffer from a lack of attention?
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Okay then, here's the PM chain. I wasn't going to post this, but looks like I'd best do it lest the personal attacks start again.


How it started:
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AHadley wrote:I realise, but wikia is a massive central address managed by a full team. Far more professional and accessible than anything a single fan could produce (no offence :P)
massive central <<<BAD
Far more professional and accessible than anything a single fan could produce<<<WRONG
When I said I had the first page of Google results almost entirely to myself:
Vassili wrote:And you think like people: "google is all what exist".
But if you will the wikia google referencement, just replace the battlezone.wikia main page by a redirection on BZCOMPLEX...

You say massive central bad/good vision depend, but in this special case i see a lot of bad, just see what happend when i will register with my nickname, when i click on the up of the page (i out of the bz wiki), when they will censure you, when wikia is selled or stopped or just disturbed.

Vassili wrote:
I don't use XMPP, but I do have a Skype account if that's any good?
Skype is spying, not compatible with others, and put ads.
XMPP is an open-source protocol so he have a lot of clients for all OS, and you can communicate with all the XMPP servers.
AHadley wrote:Skype is compatible with every IM service I use and it's no more or less secure than any other service. Rule of thumb; everything you do on the internet is watched, so don't do anything you don't want people to know about.

I might have to find an online jabber protocol or something, else we'll have to keep communicating via PM.
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Skype is compatible with every IM service I use and it's no more or less secure than any other service.
What drug do you take?
everything you do on the internet is watched
No, you don't know what is internet, internet is not google and facebook, internet is free and decentralized.
What you publish is public yes, but what you write in peer to peer for friend is not public!
Vassili wrote:
no encryption is unbreakable
This is not the topic., i speak to you of liberty, but you can't understand what is liberty...
All houses can be rob, but you don't open all your doors/windows 24/24 7/7 when you leave your house.
Oh wait...it's exactly what you do, and not me...
Vassili wrote:1-Do a web-page who save the ip of visitors, don't link this page in another for she are not public.
2-Put a link to this page on skype.
3-Wait 24h.
4-Note all the silicon valley visits.
AHadley wrote:Liberty is not a thing on the internet just as there is no such thing as free speech. I spent two years studying computer architecture and programming, and when you get to learning about computer security these are the first things you learn.
Vassili wrote:Ok, nice to see in your country they wash your brain with "liberty don't exist, so just please do all you can for we control you easily."
You had loose 2 years of your life (and probably all your life).
Vassili wrote:
I said liberty doesn't exist on the internet, because the internet is private property
So you totally confirm you don't know what is internet.
And yo ualso confirm the brain washing work well on you, you think internet is central and owned by google/microsoft.
INTERNET mean INTERconnected NETworks who mean a lot of networks (private or not) who are each connected to more of one (not centralized) and they are linked with stupid routers who just route, and all the networks owners have choose to use the same protocol, doing a standard, and this standard id free.
Without open source software, internet will not exist today.
Each computer connected to this WAN is a client AND A SERVER.

How can you learn some years of informatic and don't know that.
Vassili wrote:
even if your comptuer were an Apple or Sony, you would still be in complete control of the data contained therein
No, it's why i say you don't own it, Apple and SONY put locks on the hardware and software, and they forbid to change it (when you can, because hardware is hardware...).
but any one of them could be watching the data passed through it.
Yes and i have explain that too:
but they are (if it's real internet and not the minitel you call internet)stupid, they are made for route, it's all
STUPID mean can't analize and filter.
Vassili wrote:
I've never encountered anything I couldn't bypass with something so simple as reformatting the hard-drive
It's strange because i think you have the same computers seleld in UK... with HARDWARE, because a machine is composed by hardware... who have chips for example, and some chips builders include restrictions for theyr friends the sellers of software.
Waht? GNu/Linux don't run on this new motherboard, why? Oh not it's the new Krosoft chip, who can read/modify/delete your files!
I think you have too much to learn for know a part of informatic (and i don't say i know more programming languages of you, i just expose a real fact).
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Vassili wrote:Yes it's exactly all the brain washing resumed here.
INTERNET IS THAT, auto-hosting.
Hosting yourself have no disavandage and a lot of avantages, but yo usay it's not a good idea?
And you know, the servers you use, you, soem peopel own it, so they arehsoting theyrself! so in your logic it's a bad idea to hosting on peopel servers who hosting, so it's just bad to host soemthing, so... oh my god nothing can exist in your logic.
Hosting your content on servers owned by others is not cool, and that make your content is theyr contents.
What. I have no idea where you pulled this brainwashing crap from.

I didn't say you couldn't run the server yourself, just that it's better to have one machine dedicated to hosting and another to use as the front-end. I didn't say hosting yourself had any disadvantages, I said using one machine did.

I appreciate there may be a language barrier between us and you may have mis-read or misunderstood, so whilst I understand that may have gotten in the way there is absolutely no need for personal attacks like that.
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Red Spot wrote:Do you suffer from a lack of attention?
Nielk1 had post this conversation on another non-related thread, with minuscule characters, it's why i place it here.
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Thanks AHadley for the pm posts, that make me free of 1 minute more :)
But why you have modify the layout?
We can clearly see i answer alone, where is your messages between?
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I posted only a few choice excerpts. If I'd posted everything we'd have hundreds of lines to scroll through, most of which are simply descriptive models of how the internet/von Neumann architecture/other forms of technology work or explanations of wikimarkup. You're more than welcome to post the rest if you feel like it.
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Can I just say that there is so much lulz to be had here? XD

No seriously, this is funny. If I didn't have to go to work soon from this post, I'd have a bigger reply in all this madness.
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It's a service I provide. :mrgreen:
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Vassili wrote:
Red Spot wrote:Do you suffer from a lack of attention?
Nielk1 had post this conversation on another non-related thread, with minuscule characters, it's why i place it here.
And that is exactly the reason I ask what I asked. I know it was posted in an other topic, which probably not without reason is now called 'delete thread'.
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It's HAMADEH who had decide to delete his thread after Nielk1 paste the personnal thing betwwen us on HAMADEH thread.
I think it's not a reason, just move the sh*t from his thread, some people can contine to write about Python and Java; and some people can continue to spit on me on this thread, everybody have his pleasure like that.

If you do that (deleting), some people will start to pollute every topic for you delete all.
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You and ah were already arguing about c# before Nielk1 even came.

Honestly though, I think this whole thing is from lack of understanding each other.

Vassili posts English grammatically incorrect

Somebody tries interpret and answer it.

Vassili takes it the wrong way

And it starts over.
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I'm not certain that is the issue when you try to tell someone they've been brainwashed because they said the internet isn't a free place.
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Now that I'm home from work, easy day despite it being bone chilling cold.. but aside from that, let's see what we got here.

I'll lay some ground work about my stance in this community. I've been around BZ2 since 2000. I didn't make myself known to the online community until about '03 or so. My old nick was ScionCrow and was a member of {SFP} when they were a clan, and with that, I'm also friends with both Sonic and Kalshion, two very prominent members back then. I have some respect in the general community even though I've mostly not posted much the past couple years due to the state of decay it has become.

With that in mind, Nielk1 and AH both have outstanding respect in general for their knowledge in the game itself. Both are prominent modders and know almost the ins and outs of the games engine and its limitations, aside from Nathan (GSH) who continues to update the code in his spare time. I've become friends with N1 as well as we share similar opinions and views of the community, though he is much more involved than I am as I have more important matters to attend to usually.

Now onto the matter at hand. I'll be the first to admit, I enjoyed reading all this debacle and debating between everyone because I had a good laugh after going through some pure hell at work. But now its time to get serious.

Be forewarned, I'll be blunt in what I'm going to say and I'll hold no bars at all. I understand you don't know english very well, I can make sense of most of what you say. Sometimes people who don't will ask to try and explain things better, but there is absolutely no reason to get bent out of shape for it too.

On a technological note, I couldn't give two craps if someone uses Skype or any program I personally hate myself. Yes, Microsoft bought them out to eventually replace Windows Live Messenger with it most likely. I hate Microsoft in general for many reasons, but I still use the OS due to gaming and various other things I do such as anime encoding, game recording, etc. AH has experience in coding, and I'd take his word over some other people. But there is just no reason, whatsoever, to ignore someone just because one uses a particular program that doesn't even harm you. If you don't use it, fine, no one is forcing you. No reason to insult someone because of that. And AH not knowing what the internet is? What the hell are you spouting on about? Anyone who's spent a considerable amount of their lives in computers and tech know what the internet is and how it even started.

Code languages is another thing. As AH said in the other thread, PHP is primarily a web-based programming language. I have dabbled a bit with it back in my early phpBB days when I was heavily modifying it. I also know HTML and CSS, both of which can also be combined into PHP to make pretty advanced web pages. A side-effect to some PHP programming is that it can be used in local applications, but that is not the primary use for it. Java on the other hand is both, a web programming, and can also be used in local application processes. When it comes to game coding, the C languages are the most common to be used as they are the most versatile and works primarily well on Windows, where developers have used it as a standard since the early 90's. C# is just like what AH said, so I won't really repeat it.

On another note, I have used Linux. I've used it for a while, but I stopped for now as I can't see a real need to use it currently. If all my programs for encoding and such worked fine there, I'd probably use it more frequently. I like open source software just as much as the next person would, but until Microsoft's 'monopoly' in the PC market dwindles, everything will continue to be made for the Windows OS with some Linux alternatives.

I'm not going to get into the "free speech" and "liberty" debate as that crosses roads I don't want to cross at this time. While some will say the internet is "free speech" and such, this may not be the case in other areas. Of course, one can find just about anything on the internet if one looks hard enough.

Going on with that IRC banter, or at least a part of it. IRC has been around for almost 40 years. Many people 'idle' in a channel while they do other things and don't always talk. Some, like myself, look over channel text but not converse for other reasons. Either its to read only, or to monitor the channel if one is a moderator or staff. So while some are there, they may not talk for many reasons. I do this all the time and I'm in roughly 20 different channels on one server alone.

I think for now I'll leave it at that.
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Oh God, this thread is one of the best ever. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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TwinShadow?
Another guy who "answer" to me without reading the fact...
I never have insult him for using Skype, for example..
But discussion with your band have no end...because no discussion is possible.
And actually your friends are harrasing (with lies and insults) every people who join the irc channel...and Nielk1 who are moderator just look...and discuss with them.
3,2,1, you deny it in 3 second.
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