Rec Wars VOTE

[S.cavA.rmyG.en]

I came up with a way to fite one RV vs another so lets save some time here by making the list a littel sorter then all RVs so you can play this weak end.
I will add others on request.
add links to your requests they will get built faster.
the download of this will be put on bzscrap.org.
I will and a link here latter.
I will go over the list for the last time at 9:00pm E.S.T.
any others will wate till the morning

[S.cavA.rmyG.en]

so I take it that this is a failed idea right?
becouse thats what look like right now.

[Nielk1]

if you look at those recyclers listed, the one that would win every time is the SRV rec if in play. MRVP is a pack of multiple recs that are all slightly different, and Lucky Foot IIRC just removes ejected pilots.

Really none of these are fit for such a split.

[Zero Angel]

The Lucky Foot variant also allows the build of 35 scrap empty tanks, quite imbalanced for strat.

Generally the idea of 'rec wars' makes no sense to me for strat. Just select the most OP rec and win.

[MrTwosheds]

The gh rec is not really suitable for strat either, those rocket towers are very overpowered, so is slug and Super chain just kills everything.
It not that its a bad idea, its just that things need to be balanced for strat to work, none of the mpi recys are balanced for strat.

[Axeminister]

I wish someone would make a variant like the Instant Action games the cd came with, where the computer builds base except your starting ship can't die for the amount of time you set your rec to not die in beginning. Once your 15 minutes is up the computer builds things remarkably fast with cheats and starts handing out stuff quick. If you wanted you could choose which RV for the computer to use if needed still. I thought if you're going to mix RV's in strat and there is going to be unfair advantages, why not make the game play a bit more frenetic for the players whose goal, in the beginning, would simply be to keep the pools and get the pools for the computer. G66 aips already cap pools miraculously fast and have constructor/builder armies that go out and build defenses and upgrade extractors super fast. All the while they attack with hordes and appear out of nowhere for surprise attacks, Furies dropping out of the sky stuff happening every few feet, patrols circling pools - constructors/builders and land areas, counter attacks when you do hit their base etc. This stuff never happens in strat. If nothing else it would introduce another mode of play.

[S.cavA.rmyG.en]

it is imbalanced the recs all build at diffrent speeds and build diffrent monsters thats the way it should be the player who best use their RV will win and if all of them pick the same one its no loger imbalanced.
my point here is that the MP game will be as imbalanced as the players on it want if they all pick the same one then thats there problem that it ends up being the same a normal strat.

note: to self I need to see if I still have a copy of fox's FE RV.

[S.cavA.rmyG.en]

well I got it done dose any one still want it.
20 RVs
42 odfs per race.
6 base odfs
2 models

[MrTwosheds]

I assume this is dependent on the unofficial expansion pack?

[S.cavA.rmyG.en]

I assume this is dependent on the unofficial expansion pack?

no not at all it will run with out any mods or add ons.
but thats one of the only prooblems that I can't fix.
becouse it uses a subobject system I did not have to edit any RV
a nice thing about the system is that it can be updated with 2 odfs and one edit.
but you can still build a sub object even if you don't have the RV.
and becouse you can only build 1 you mite end up timing out.

[Nielk1]

WAT?

[S.cavA.rmyG.en]

WAT?

ok lets start with you telling me what you don't under stand N1.
if I need to I will post the base odfs.

[Ded10c]

WAT?

ok lets start with you telling me what you don't under stand N1.
if I need to I will post the base odfs.

That would mean that he hasn't got a clue what you're on about. At all.

I'm gonna guess you are using an invisible recycler which then produces the *vrecy_# for each RV, correct? You remember how we told you that was open to all kinds of horrible exploitation?

[S.cavA.rmyG.en]

WAT?

ok lets start with you telling me what you don't under stand N1.
if I need to I will post the base odfs.

That would mean that he hasn't got a clue what you're on about. At all.

I'm gonna guess you are using an invisible recycler which then produces the *vrecy_# for each RV, correct? You remember how we told you that was open to all kinds of horrible exploitation?

yes I do remmember.
here is what I did to fix those problems.

1.used a sub object in stead of just building the *vrecy_# for each RV so that I could limet it to one pick.
2. used a taped builder not a invisible recycler that is base slot 1 till its over rided by the recyler that you pick.
3. the starting building has a 2 min life so dose the builder and all sub objects.
4. due to problems with just letting you build the *vrecy_# for each RV I changed it so you build the *Brecy_# for each RV in stead.
5. the sub objects can not be damaged and can not be taken down by the builder and have no scrap value do not own treain and do not show on radar. making the RV pick finel.

I have found only 2 problems with this system.
1.even if you do not have a RV on the list you can still build the sub object it just will not do any thing but cost you the game in less then 2 min.
2.for the first 2min you have 2 recycler scrap bars wich can't be helped and makes no real diffrence becouse by the time you buid your first scavenger its gone.

[S.cavA.rmyG.en]

so far the list is.
1. all GH RVS
2. all commando RVs
3. all stock RVs
4. SRV
5. the vet RV
6. all lucky foot RVs
7. my RV
once agen if you want a RV added post a working link to it or a recyler name.
with the new system I built it takes little work and time to add a RV.
the max# of RV at this time is 100.
and remmember even if I add it you and the srever still will need that RV to use it in MP with this
but that is the problem with all RV.

and once agen this RV is not to intended to blance out strat games it is intended to chage the way they are played by giving you one extra freedom.
and if every one picks the same over powerd RV it just becomes a normal strat.
even if they pick over powerd RV like SRV they can still lose to a better commander using stock.
if your the srever and you want evey one to have the same then pick that RV and don't use this at all