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Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:20 am
by MrTwosheds
Well probably not...the terms Novel and profit usually only occur in conjunction with published and successful. Having a tiny bunch of retro pc gamers as your target audience, is pretty much going to guarantee that no publisher will be interested, unless the book is really something outstanding.

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:01 pm
by Red Spot
Would you risk it over something you'd call a hobby?

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:35 pm
by Zax
He's still doing that?

He was still doing that years upon years ago. The just-finishing-up process must be utterly draining.

On that cargo-freighter ship, it must be using thrusters exclusively for maneuvering, they would never hold a ship that size aloft. Teehee.

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:49 pm
by Psychedelic Rhino
Zax wrote:On that cargo-freighter ship, it must be using thrusters exclusively for maneuvering, they would never hold a ship that size aloft.
Nozzle size is but one of the variables. If the engine can throw enough mass, at high enough velocity, the nozzle can be quite small, as you can see in one of the original jet fighters the Germans produced in WW2. . .the Messerschmitt 163

For example, I haven't done the F=MA for it, but I could easily imagine a 747 gaining enough thrust to fly from a nozzle the size of a Budweiser can if it could continuously flow a few ounces of mass in a few billionths of a second, at ~20% lightspeed. However, there is an issue that must be considered in designs using a de Laval-type nozzle, referred to as choked flow. I'm not a rocket scientist :roll: but the reason you don't see extremely small nozzles, is it is too difficult and problematic to try and accelerate mass that quickly and reliably.

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:54 pm
by Nielk1
MrTwosheds wrote:Are there really army's of parasitic lawyers searching every dark corners of the multimedia world searching for someone to sue?
yes

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:02 am
by Zax
Psychedelic Rhino wrote:
Zax wrote:On that cargo-freighter ship, it must be using thrusters exclusively for maneuvering, they would never hold a ship that size aloft.
Nozzle size is but one of the variables. If the engine can throw enough mass, at high enough velocity, the nozzle can be quite small, as you can see in one of the original jet fighters the Germans produced in WW2. . .the Messerschmitt 163

For example, I haven't done the F=MA for it, but I could easily imagine a 747 gaining enough thrust to fly from a nozzle the size of a Budweiser can if it could continuously flow a few ounces of mass in a few billionths of a second, at ~20% lightspeed. However, there is an issue that must be considered in designs using a de Laval-type nozzle, referred to as choked flow. I'm not a rocket scientist :roll: but the reason you don't see extremely small nozzles, is it is too difficult and problematic to try and accelerate mass that quickly and reliably.
Well, ok, but the post was really aimed at GBD preemptively before he said "Thrusters on biometal ship! GAHHHHHH!"

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:22 am
by Nielk1
In canon the thruster chaises of all BZ1 units are not made of biometal but are instead suspended with other equipment by LAZERS while the biometal is sprayed on as a thin layer. This explains many differences between BZ1 and BZ2 units.

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:12 pm
by Psychedelic Rhino
Just for historic reference. . .

The Moon and Mars expeditions in the early and mid 60's to recover known or suspected impact locations of bio-metal, used conventional chemistry for orbital or planetary parabolic trajectories with the exception of the Mars missions.

The efficiency of using a bio-metal integrated drive allowed us to go to Mars in mere days to weeks instead of months. This was vital considering several of the mission flights were very inefficient as Mars was in retrograde or on the other side of the sun. I have found some reference the tech was used for Hohmann orbital transfers, but this is only conjecture as the documentation I have is very limited. And of course, as every BZ player knows, the technology was used in conjunction with the Uni-Mass drive on the surface as a lateral or perpendicular to god's g thrust, since the Uni-Mass 'drive' is only capable of 'levitation' a meter or so above the surface.

The developed technology utilizing bio-metal was generally and generically referred to as the 'Bio-metal heating lattice'. This, of course, was decades before VASIMR, 'Resistojet' or METs were developed not using bio-metal as the heating technology or power source.

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:25 pm
by Red Spot
LtFeed, any idea when you're going public with this?

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:14 am
by LtFEED
were currently in the closed beta phase. :)

We were shooting for a March release on Steam, but we decided to list the Project on Kickstarter first. If we wait a few more months, we will have a much better release for Steam. Were going to release one more closed beta and then well release and open beta, which will be public. The open beta should be ready in about 30 days. Were about to release a full Trailer of the game, ill post the link here as soon its up. Heres the link to the Teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMk82MwPzPQ

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:25 am
by Psychedelic Rhino
Best of luck. I really hope you guys can find a player base.

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:34 pm
by LtFEED
thanks Psy Rhino :)

i hope so also!

but, i think we got a good start:

we were recently tweeted by Ken Levine:

https://twitter.com/#!/bionite

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:44 am
by Nielk1
Psychedelic Rhino wrote:Just for historic reference. . .
The problem with everything you post is I can't tell if it is for Battlezone or your re-imagining which work on specifiably different basis.

Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:48 pm
by LtFEED
some rough screens of the upcoming open beta:

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Re: Bionite: Origins

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:29 pm
by Red Spot
That looks pretty impressive ;)
I do hope that any missions, or gamemodes, are as impressive as the looks, preferable even more 8-)