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Re: Your Favorite ISDF Unit

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:29 pm
by Ded10c
Useful against infantry, though.

Re: Your Favorite ISDF Unit

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:46 pm
by Red Spot
blue banana wrote:pumas arent that good in G66, i have realized that a long time ago. you can just hit them with a dual arc and they blow up. a sabre can hold against that though, but i guess thats why they call it a Light Tank
They can be quite decent if used as ... guess what .. a light tank ;)
A -frondoor assaulting- wingman tries to use it, it will fail. When a commander uses it to check up on whatever his wingmen might need while giving them some offensive support on the go, it will succeed.

Re: Your Favorite ISDF Unit

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:05 pm
by Zax
Red Spot wrote:
blue banana wrote:pumas arent that good in G66, i have realized that a long time ago. you can just hit them with a dual arc and they blow up. a sabre can hold against that though, but i guess thats why they call it a Light Tank
They can be quite decent if used as ... guess what .. a light tank ;)
A -frondoor assaulting- wingman tries to use it, it will fail. When a commander uses it to check up on whatever his wingmen might need while giving them some offensive support on the go, it will succeed.
Time to dip into early BZ1 history books here. You know what sucks? The bobcat, aka the pre-grizzly light tank. In bz2, the missle scout and mortar bike are the light tanks.

Re: Your Favorite ISDF Unit

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:36 pm
by blue banana
AHadley wrote:Useful against infantry, though.
that is correct, but it wont happen. what pilot will just walk next to a puma, and the APC strategy has been adapted to use rocket tanks and that stuff
Zax wrote:Time to dip into early BZ1 history books here. You know what sucks? The bobcat, aka the pre-grizzly light tank. In bz2, the missle scout and mortar bike are the light tanks.
bobcats were not the light tanks in pre-grizzly, they were the tanks. the nsdf used them before the grizzly
Red Spot wrote:A -frondoor assaulting- wingman tries to use it, it will fail. When a commander uses it to check up on whatever his wingmen might need while giving them some offensive support on the go, it will succeed.
i dont really see a commander using a light tank to assist offensive support. pumas are best used in groups, and are mostly used as base defensives (mid-cost gun tower + low cost puma = high power)

Re: Your Favorite ISDF Unit

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:25 pm
by Ded10c
blue banana wrote:that is correct, but it wont happen. what pilot will just walk next to a puma, and the APC strategy has been adapted to use rocket tanks and that stuff
G66.

Re: Your Favorite ISDF Unit

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:34 am
by Lionsword7
=D
Let's see your Rocket tanks hold up in G66~

And Pumas are low cost offensive units. They are built faster and cheaper, and so can be used to assist in offense more rapidly.

Re: Your Favorite ISDF Unit

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:11 pm
by blue banana
pumas are built faster and cheaper for a reason, and they are best utilized in groups for that reason. sending a puma itself into combat would not be a smart idea unless the enemy is a scavenger or scout
lets say you built some gun towers near one of your most-needed extractors, and it is attacked. if the attack was strong enough to force you to send a unit to help, you would probably send out a heavy unit, not a light tank

Re: Your Favorite ISDF Unit

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:05 am
by Baconboy
But I like to use Pumas instead of Sabres.
They're cheaper and with a SP-Stabber they'll kick butt!

Re: Your Favorite ISDF Unit

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:07 am
by Lionsword7
Pumas swarm > Sabre swarm
In combat, Pumas will win. Especially AI. Because for AI, numbers > power to a large degree. For example, a rocket tank controlled by a human has a shot at killing two Pumas head on. For an AI, it will lose. So a Puma swarm attacking a base with SP Stab would fare better than Sabres.

And at supporting defenses, you'd send a rocket tank/Titan/Assault Tank. You wouldn't send a sabre which can be sniped.