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Red Spot wrote:Nielk1 if you really think I wrote that as a true statement you might have some wires coming loose.

Well, it is the single worst analogy I have seen in some 20 years. And the year of my life left out of those years was before my understanding of analogies. I mean, that was the single worst comparison I have EVER heard that was not meant to be a comic portrayal of fallacy by the opposing side of an issue.

What is shocking is that you thought it was a good idea to EVER write something like that.

Its not shocking, what is shocking is some people apparent inability to see both sided of a story, the whole point of 9/11 was to bring death and destruction to America, so that Americans can know how it feels too, so that maybe you might stop giving f11's and tanks to people whom you know perfectly well are going to use them on civilian targets.
One of the things I always remember about that day is the crowd of Palestinian's cheering "It was us"
Propaganda has been heavily used to obscure the real long term issues that are still being ignored.

We pay a LOT for our military, damn straight we're gonna use it.

Who's next.

MrTwosheds wrote:Its not shocking, what is shocking is some people apparent inability to see both sided of a story, the whole point of 9/11 was to bring death and destruction to America, so that Americans can know how it feels too, so that maybe you might stop giving f11's and tanks to people whom you know perfectly well are going to use them on civilian targets.
One of the things I always remember about that day is the crowd of Palestinian's cheering "It was us"
Propaganda has been heavily used to obscure the real long term issues that are still being ignored.

I saw a Bin Ladin video where he was saying that he wanted us to panic and bankrupt ourselves, which is pretty much what we've done. Spent trillions of borrowed money, made long term, expensive commitments, given up a few freedoms, subjected ourselves to being searched and irradiated, and made millions of new enemies.

Not bad for a skinny guy with a stinky beard. We could kill him 10,000 times and we still would be nowhere near even.

AcneVulgaris wrote:Not bad for a skinny guy with a stinky beard. We could kill him 10,000 times and we still would be nowhere near even.

You could say similar about a small runt of a man with a puffed up ego with a black postage stamp moustache. Still great to see their ilk dead.

Think what he might have achieved with a stinky beard! We'd probably be speaking German now.

MrTwosheds wrote:Its not shocking, what is shocking is some people apparent inability to see both sided of a story, the whole point of 9/11 was to bring death and destruction to America, so that Americans can know how it feels too, so that maybe you might stop giving f11's and tanks to people whom you know perfectly well are going to use them on civilian targets.
One of the things I always remember about that day is the crowd of Palestinian's cheering "It was us"
Propaganda has been heavily used to obscure the real long term issues that are still being ignored.

Lets not try to make some sort of grand message in something that isn't there. The point was to kill a bunch of people and do damage to a country that has freedom of religion and does not force everyone into Islam. The fact we were most dangerous to them is why we were first.

This is about religious purity.

Quite a lot of response from the al qaeda world for him not to be dead.

This is about religious purity.

That is simply a tool they use to control and drive people. It is not what made you their enemy.

MrTwosheds wrote:

This is about religious purity.

That is simply a tool they use to control and drive people. It is not what made you their enemy.

That.

trust me, they want the entire world to use islam - aptly named ("I slam")

Not really. They want you to follow their path within the Islam.
I know quite a few people that follow the teachings of Mohammed that do not aprove of the direction Bin Laden and followers are/were heading.

Sort of similair as you have Calvin, Luther, etc. within the christian faith.

not talking about them, but the radical, jihadist whackos.

Well at one point many people applied those words to Luther. Nt the exact ones, but same principle.

Personally, I feel that the Middle East is getting to the point where it is either do or die. There is going to be some form of large conflict to resolve these problems. As I and a freind were discussing today, sometimes things get to the point where it can't be helped, and you ned to start over.

Don't know if anyone already posted this, but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb4-OFE8B-4
WARNING: LOTS-O-LANGUAGE
This is a link my friend showed me and I didn't finish it.