Battlezone and Truespace share one thing in Common.

[Ded10c]

Zephyr's races are definately Lightwave. And Slaor may have used Truespace, but he is a professional. His job is in graphics design.

[General BlackDragon]

It might be lightwave, if thats a modeling program, im just guessing off my ...bad memory.

[Lionsword7]

*suddenly realized that Truespace did not reference RL but was a program*
Doh. My bad. ^^;

[VSMIT]

Thank you TwoSheds I just want to be left alone to post my silly little articles that's all.

Then go back to your own forum. People are free to post here, too, so don't get indignant when they have differing opinions.

Let's not have a repeat of BZU, yes?

Thanks.

[Col Klink]

Thank you TwoSheds I just want to be left alone to post my silly little articles that's all.

Then go back to your own forum. People are free to post here, too, so don't get indignant when they have differing opinions.

Let's not have a repeat of BZU, yes?

Thanks.

If that's true then I should have the same freedom here too. Right? Thanks.

[GSH]

Klink - I'm going to weigh in here once, so listen carefully. Yes, you have the right to mention your love of Truespace. But, others have the exact same right to tell you they're not interested. You're perfectly able to mention your love of truespace here, but a lot of others think of it as beating a dead horse. I'll be charitable and call it bringing flowers and chocolate to a dead horse. And you're doing so really often. Such actions just weird people out, and they've got the right to say so. Your "right" to free speech (which is not really applicable on private forums) does not negate the rights of others to tell you off.

Despite the (bogus, IMHO) claims that these forums are merely full of modders, I'd say that's a myth. Most people here aren't making 3D models. As far as I can tell (and I hope to be wrong), new model creation for BZ2 has pretty much dropped to a standstill, no matter what software. So, when someone keeps pushing something that (1) people generally aren't interested in that field, and (2) those that are interested are interested in something else, you're just rubbing people the wrong way. That's why people have gotten annoyed.

-- GSH

[Col Klink]

Klink - I'm going to weigh in here once, so listen carefully. Yes, you have the right to mention your love of Truespace. But, others have the exact same right to tell you they're not interested. You're perfectly able to mention your love of truespace here, but a lot of others think of it as beating a dead horse. I'll be charitable and call it bringing flowers and chocolate to a dead horse. And you're doing so really often. Such actions just weird people out, and they've got the right to say so. Your "right" to free speech (which is not really applicable on private forums) does not negate the rights of others to tell you off.

Despite the (bogus, IMHO) claims that these forums are merely full of modders, I'd say that's a myth. Most people here aren't making 3D models. As far as I can tell (and I hope to be wrong), new model creation for BZ2 has pretty much dropped to a standstill, no matter what software. So, when someone keeps pushing something that (1) people generally aren't interested in that field, and (2) those that are interested are interested in something else, you're just rubbing people the wrong way. That's why people have gotten annoyed.

-- GSH

Freedom of speech had nothing to do with it bro. Freedom to post within forums rules has everything to do with it? That I annoy certain people is apparently beyond my control or I would find a way not to do it with such frequency, but then what would I post? I think even you must admit the people I seem to annoy are always the same specific people; not everyone in general.

As the administrator of the forum you shouldn't side with any particular group. I try to post what I feel is relevent information for some and apparently the one's that don't care a thing about what I post always post just to rub my nose in it as a negitive comment. Those people shouldn't reply to such topics in question. Truespace, is relevent to model making for BZII in many ways. When people post against the use of it I wonder why? Most are MAX users from what I've seen. It's pretty obvious Nathan. Unless I violate forum rules then no one has the right to tell me or any other poster for that matter what to actually post. Twosheds, was right. Stop telling other posters what to post. If you have no interest in them or what they post just don't read their posts or reply to them. Some people don't apparently understand this and post just to incite other members in little flame wars that I usually get blamed for by default. Most of the poeple on this forum are okay in my book while other annoy me as much as I seem to annoy them. I'll continue to post as long as I can but other people need to learn tolerate my posts including management. Thanks.

[Ded10c]

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Rule 1, and general rules 6 and 7.

[Zax]

I have not seen one post about truespace by Slaor. Therefore, Slaor is better than bng

[Col Klink]

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Rule 1, and general rules 6 and 7.

I see rule 1 and wonder if that applies to all posters or just select posters? The same also apply to 6 and 7 for all posters not just a select few, or it's not much of a rule then. The people other then myself that supposedly abuse the forum rules should also have them applied equally and not just used as means of discriminating against an individual poster. I know this forum is funded by Nathan and I respect that reality. I've tried to avoid confrontations, but other posters apparently know how to get under my skin quite frequently. The flame wars that get started are the result of several people engaging in the same bad behavior. I disabled PM's on my profile as it's just another means of harassing or being harassed by other posters; I also don't send them anymore.

Let's cut to the chase then...am I or am I not free to post anymore Truespace related articles? If I'm not free to post anymore articles then you might as well just delete my account as I use Truespace exclusively for BZII modeling purposes. It's valid 3D model creation software for BZII, but it's getting old having others devalue it's actual worth because they personally have no interest in using it. If I played the same game with MAX users then I'd really catch hell...no lie. MAX rocks for those who can afford it, but I can't...so I found a good freebie alternative 3D software that I love sharing with other people. Why then can't I share and post relevant modeling articles about using it? It seems pretty unfair if you ask me.

Also, what about new people that might find Truespace a nice alternative would you also deny them access to it because a few select posters don't care for it?

[Iron Maiden]

If I could try and sum up what people have been saying:

Your are free to post about Truespace, but don't keep saying how wonderful it is to people who don't use it out of choice, jsut as you use it out of choice and would not like if we all of sudden were to start pouring Blender down your throat or something. Basically, very few here want Truespace. Yopu may post if you want, but just don't be constantly mentioning it jsut for sake of doing so.

[GSH]

Klink - go re-read this until it sinks in:

Klink - I'm going to weigh in here once, so listen carefully. Yes, you have the right to mention your love of Truespace. But, others have the exact same right to tell you they're not interested.

-- GSH

[Col Klink]

Klink - go re-read this until it sinks in:

Klink - I'm going to weigh in here once, so listen carefully. Yes, you have the right to mention your love of Truespace. But, others have the exact same right to tell you they're not interested.

-- GSH

Thanks Nathan, I'll keep my posts relevant to BZII and not push Truespace except as a viable model making option for those who are looking for a free modeling package to get models and props in to BZII. Regrettably, I love using Truespace as much as I love playing and modding for BZII. Both are an obsession for for which I little control over. BTW, I don't post just to annoy other posters.

[Zax]

Klink - go re-read this until it sinks in:

Klink - I'm going to weigh in here once, so listen carefully. Yes, you have the right to mention your love of Truespace. But, others have the exact same right to tell you they're not interested.

-- GSH

Thanks Nathan, I'll keep my posts relevant to BZII and not push Truespace except as a viable model making option for those who are looking for a free modeling package to get models and props in to BZII. Regrettably, I love using Truespace as much as I love playing and modding for BZII. Both are an obsession for for which I little control over. BTW, I don't post just to annoy other posters.

That right there is exactly what we're talking about.
Sheesh, you sound like my dad. Lol

"It's ok, I won't talk about bananas anymore even though they're an excellent source of nutrition and cheap to buy"

[Firestorm29]

Granted, I don't have much clue of what's going on in the BZ2 side of things, but from my angle of an uninvolved person, it really feels like very single post you made here has been about pushing software you like.

I think the term "SPAM" might be applicable here.