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If only we would drill our own oil, or actually take some from Iraq. We have enough oil under our nation to fuel us for years and years but since shallow and now deep drilling is prevented, we can't get to it. And with the crap the media and left wing pulled Bush was scared away from even CONSIDERING using some Iraq oil. :-/
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Nielk1 wrote:I blatantly insult people who refuse to acknowledge FACTS and instead delve into opinionated conjecture, conspiracy, and fraudulent 'evidence'.


How about you take some of your own advice.
Red Spot wrote:grow up.
You really dont get it do you. All I need to do is quote your first and last statement and it shows very clearly how maturelly you can have a discussion with someone.
I am done with this any further, at least untill you can behave as you clearly like to see yourself .. mature.


Just one more, as they are so easy to find:
During the lead-up to war in March 2003, Hans Blix had found no stockpiles of WMD and had made significant progress toward resolving open issues of disarmament noting "proactive" but not always the "immediate" Iraqi cooperation as called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441. He concluded that it would take “but months” to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks.[4] The United States asserted this was a breach of Resolution 1441 but failed to convince the UN Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force due to lack of evidence.[5][6][7] Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[8] President Bush asserted peaceful measures couldn't disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War,[9] despite multiple dissenting opinions[10] and questions of integrity[11][12][13] about the underlying intelligence.[14] Later U.S.-led inspections agreed that Iraq had earlier abandoned its WMD programs, but asserted Iraq had an intention to pursue those programs if UN sanctions were ever lifted.[15] President Bush later said that the biggest regret of his presidency was "the intelligence failure" in Iraq,[16] while the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration "misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq".[17] A key CIA informant in Iraq admitted that he lied about his allegations, "then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war".[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_w ... estruction
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Nielk1 wrote:If only we would drill our own oil, or actually take some from Iraq. We have enough oil under our nation to fuel us for years and years but since shallow and now deep drilling is prevented, we can't get to it. And with the crap the media and left wing pulled Bush was scared away from even CONSIDERING using some Iraq oil. :-/
I'd rather burn all of everybody else's oil first. Being the last country with oil reserves would put us in a very good position. Being the first country without them would put us in a very bad one.
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Red Spot wrote:{snip}
That also omits anything that does not fit the party line. I should not have to show you the liberal hold on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a horrible source, not because it can be modified by anyone but because it is extremely biased.

But hey, omitting anything that doesn't fit with your point of view is a time honored tradition when it comes to 9/11, the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, and so on. You are either just another victim of it or another perpetrator.
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Oy.

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT, I WILL NOT BOTHER ARGUING WITH YOU AND SIMPLY BELEIVE I AM RIGHT.

Iraq: WMD's with false intel. Result: Saddahm Hussein, ruthless dictator, who burned large amounts of his own oil in retaliation to our efforts, is taken down. Iraq was not about 9/11, Afghanistan was.

Libya: EU and humanitarians getting their panties in a bunch because we cared more about the well being of our own country then that of an insignigant, poor, wasteland-esque country in the centered around the Sahara. Gadafi should have been taken down earlier after Pan Am, but that was then, this was now. France and the UK have more than enough power to deal with Libya, and they are spending much less. Another reason, we need allies in that region, and as I said before, when we were in Libya's situation, France was there for us.
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Thank you Iron Maiden.
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Consult this http://www.battlezoneclub.org/forum/vie ... =16&t=2897 since at least one BZ board is rational.
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Zax wrote:Consult this http://www.battlezoneclub.org/forum/vie ... =16&t=2897 since at least one BZ board is rational.
You aren't helping since you failed on step 1 or 2.
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Gadaffi was a target of the bombings in the '80s - he claimed his adopted daughter Hana had been killed in them, whose age varied in the press reports he gave from between 6 to 12 months.
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I'd rather burn all of everybody else's oil first. Being the last country with oil reserves would put us in a very good position.
Assuming that you have also genetically modified your population, to withstand high temperatures, breathe a CO2 rich atmosphere and are able to survive on a diet consisting only of minerals...
Time to break out the high yield nukes.
Those things are very messy, the research into intelligence discriminator bio weapons is unfortunately at a very early stage. :evil:
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Basically, I can't wait until we develop nuclear fusion or somesuch and can feasibly start using hydrogen fuel everywhere.
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AHadley wrote:Basically, I can't wait until we develop nuclear fusion or somesuch and can feasibly start using hydrogen fuel everywhere.
I suspect a Mr. Fusion device has been possible for decades. The problem is, with a little modification, they would make handy little weapons of mass destruction.
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