visible spawn points

[MrTwosheds]

Spawn points are visible in the editor, but not in the game, Is there a setting that can be used to turn this off/on or apply it to other classes?
To either make a visible spawn point, or add invisible game objects that show up in the editor.

[Red Spot]

-Iirc- the game removes the spawnpoints at the start of the game, or somesuch.

You can achieve the same result though, with a bit of dll work. I've set my dll up so that it creates an invisible object when -no bomber- is selected so AIPs can check for its presence and NOT build a B-bay in the first place (insteaf of building it and than not using it).

You can add a -secret parameter- to the dll that allows your dll to create a -visible object- instead of an invisible so you can check if it all works out fine/it spawns correctly. (Same like the mode that turns stuff into flying 1 HP scrap, for testing purpose.)

[MrTwosheds]

with a bit of dll work

Not the answer I was looking for.

[Red Spot]

I didnt think you'd like it. But afaik the only object that has the characteristics you're looking for are the spawnpoints, and afaik those work cause of some dll-trickery of their own.

You can always do it the -manual- way by making an invisible object and swapping odf's with something visible while you work with it in the editor.

[GSH]

Morphtanks can go invisible when morphed. That's a feature added for Avatar early in 1.3.

-- GSH

[Nielk1]

On my custom spawn point fake objects (DLL uses it to do probability weighted spawning) I had to manually swap the model in the ODF for when using the editor to edit. There is no way to do what you want. I wish there was.

[General BlackDragon]

I'd like an AddDirResourceEditor() in the launcher CFG,

[Red Devil]

tried objectifying it? building a weird object next to it?

[MrTwosheds]

Its not a problem, I was just trying to simplify something.

[Zero Angel]

On a somewhat related question. I wonder if it's possible to have a recycler and factory 'build' spawn points.

A usage case scenario is if you could build a factory away from base (like the Scions can) then you could choose whether you want to spawn at the Factory or at the Recycler's location.

I wonder if that idea would be able to work without DLL.

EDIT: Tried making pspwn_1 buildable at a scion kiln and fired up an MPI game to test it out. Does not work.

[Red Spot]

From my modlog:

dropoff_recy_6 (R)
dropoff_fact_6 (R)
((dropoff_base4_6 // Dropoff_base5_6) Incase extra base is coded in for the AI)

Actually am not really sure if it works (cant remember), as I put in the modlog it probably should though.

[MrTwosheds]

Your trying to move, in game, the spawnpoint that respawns the players?
Sounds like a dubious idea, I believe at the moment it is fixed at the last deploy location of the recycler.
I am imagining how annoying it could be to have the enemy pilots respawn just outside your base while its under siege, getting straight back into a ship and just continuing the siege without having to go back to their base.

[GSH]

Respawns are done by DLL. In DM, it picks one randomly picked from the spawn objects (default: pspwn_1.odf).

In Strat/StratCTF/MPI, the initial location for a team/teamgroup is randomly picked from the spawn objects (default: pspwn_1.odf), then the DLL stores the Vector (xyz) of that, and ignores the spawn objects after that. Look at the DLL source code for more details.

As to invisible objects, I could have sworn there was a feature request somewhere about this on mantis/bugzilla, but I can't find it. For now,

-- GSH

[Zero Angel]

In Strat/StratCTF/MPI, the initial location for a team/teamgroup is randomly picked from the spawn objects (default: pspwn_1.odf), then the DLL stores the Vector (xyz) of that, and ignores the spawn objects after that. Look at the DLL source code for more details.

Ah, thanks for the info.

[Red Devil]

mts, i can modify the stock dll(s) for you if you want to test something. was thinking of building out-of-place objects that would let you easily recognize where they were or objectifying them or both.