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Spawn points are visible in the editor, but not in the game, Is there a setting that can be used to turn this off/on or apply it to other classes?
To either make a visible spawn point, or add invisible game objects that show up in the editor.

-Iirc- the game removes the spawnpoints at the start of the game, or somesuch.

You can achieve the same result though, with a bit of dll work. I've set my dll up so that it creates an invisible object when -no bomber- is selected so AIPs can check for its presence and NOT build a B-bay in the first place (insteaf of building it and than not using it).

You can add a -secret parameter- to the dll that allows your dll to create a -visible object- instead of an invisible so you can check if it all works out fine/it spawns correctly. (Same like the mode that turns stuff into flying 1 HP scrap, for testing purpose.)

with a bit of dll work

Not the answer I was looking for.

I didnt think you'd like it. But afaik the only object that has the characteristics you're looking for are the spawnpoints, and afaik those work cause of some dll-trickery of their own.

You can always do it the -manual- way by making an invisible object and swapping odf's with something visible while you work with it in the editor.

Morphtanks can go invisible when morphed. That's a feature added for Avatar early in 1.3.

-- GSH

On my custom spawn point fake objects (DLL uses it to do probability weighted spawning) I had to manually swap the model in the ODF for when using the editor to edit. There is no way to do what you want. I wish there was.

I'd like an AddDirResourceEditor() in the launcher CFG,

tried objectifying it? building a weird object next to it?

Its not a problem, I was just trying to simplify something.

On a somewhat related question. I wonder if it's possible to have a recycler and factory 'build' spawn points.

A usage case scenario is if you could build a factory away from base (like the Scions can) then you could choose whether you want to spawn at the Factory or at the Recycler's location.

I wonder if that idea would be able to work without DLL.

EDIT: Tried making pspwn_1 buildable at a scion kiln and fired up an MPI game to test it out. Does not work.

From my modlog:

dropoff_recy_6 (R)
dropoff_fact_6 (R)
((dropoff_base4_6 // Dropoff_base5_6) Incase extra base is coded in for the AI)

Actually am not really sure if it works (cant remember), as I put in the modlog it probably should though.

Your trying to move, in game, the spawnpoint that respawns the players?
Sounds like a dubious idea, I believe at the moment it is fixed at the last deploy location of the recycler.
I am imagining how annoying it could be to have the enemy pilots respawn just outside your base while its under siege, getting straight back into a ship and just continuing the siege without having to go back to their base.

Respawns are done by DLL. In DM, it picks one randomly picked from the spawn objects (default: pspwn_1.odf).

In Strat/StratCTF/MPI, the initial location for a team/teamgroup is randomly picked from the spawn objects (default: pspwn_1.odf), then the DLL stores the Vector (xyz) of that, and ignores the spawn objects after that. Look at the DLL source code for more details.

As to invisible objects, I could have sworn there was a feature request somewhere about this on mantis/bugzilla, but I can't find it. For now,

-- GSH

GSH wrote:In Strat/StratCTF/MPI, the initial location for a team/teamgroup is randomly picked from the spawn objects (default: pspwn_1.odf), then the DLL stores the Vector (xyz) of that, and ignores the spawn objects after that. Look at the DLL source code for more details.

Ah, thanks for the info.

mts, i can modify the stock dll(s) for you if you want to test something. was thinking of building out-of-place objects that would let you easily recognize where they were or objectifying them or both.