Battlezone 2 in game pilots

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Zero Angel wrote:Why would you use pedals for rotation? That makes no sense and is unwieldy and much slower than yanking a stick to the left or right (as well as up/down to control the pitch). Also BZ2 ships != helicopters.
Yeah, you know it better than those who develop multi-million dollar craft with pedals for rotation. Perhaps you should call the Pentagon and tell them how they should do it.
Do you have any idea how choppers or planes would work if we wouldnt have computers that "limit" the ability of the craft? They would kill their pilots.

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Perhaps Scions actually fuse with their ships while inside and ISDF uses some sort of neural interface in their helmet/suit. Which would work for Scion pilots in ISDF craft and vice versa.
Imo, if we look at things from our current technological position the HOTAS or chopper setup would probably work best. Probably why we use them in multi-million dollar craft where human pilots need to control tons of steel with their lives depending on it.
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Red Spot wrote:
Zero Angel wrote:Why would you use pedals for rotation? That makes no sense and is unwieldy and much slower than yanking a stick to the left or right (as well as up/down to control the pitch). Also BZ2 ships != helicopters.
Yeah, you know it better than those who develop multi-million dollar craft with pedals for rotation. Perhaps you should call the Pentagon and tell them how they should do it.
Do you have any idea how choppers or planes would work if we wouldnt have computers that "limit" the ability of the craft? They would kill their pilots.
I think you fail to understand how helicopters work and how BZ2 craft != helicopters

A helicopter is dynamically unstable, it wants to spin and relies on the counter spin forces of the tail rotor to offset the spin and to yaw the craft, that's why the tail rotor's pedals exist in the first place. All the other controls on a helicopter are meant to control its various aspects of things like blade pitch, rotor disk facing and throttle (throttle being how faster the blades on the main rotor spin to generate lift) BZ2 craft appear to operate on totally different principles that a helicopter operates. I mean, I guess it could, use a pedal system, but joysticks seem much more reactive.

For those interested, here's an instructional video for you that explains Helicopter controls.
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Red Spot wrote:
Zero Angel wrote:Why would you use pedals for rotation? That makes no sense and is unwieldy and much slower than yanking a stick to the left or right (as well as up/down to control the pitch). Also BZ2 ships != helicopters.
Yeah, you know it better than those who develop multi-million dollar craft with pedals for rotation. Perhaps you should call the Pentagon and tell them how they should do it.
Do you have any idea how choppers or planes would work if we wouldnt have computers that "limit" the ability of the craft? They would kill their pilots.
They are more qualified to design the interface of a fighter jet than a hover craft after working on a helicopter... Its a fundamental lack of logic here.
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But these are not hovercraft as we know them, they are jets that can not fly.
As somebody explained in this topic using the Razor as example ;)
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There are aircraft in BZ2. (Not in stock 1.0, but added since 1.2). For simplicity's sake, the cockpits would probably be similar to hovercraft. And, the Apollo program had its craft flown by joysticks, as you can see at here. (Look for the medium-gray sticks to both sides of the center seat).

Also, the first helicopters were all mechanical, no computers/fly-by-wire at all. They didn't have computers small enough to do that in the 1940s.

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The original 6 axis:
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Saying that a hovercraft has the same controls as a helicopter is like saying a boat has the same controls as a plane.
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OOoooooooooooooooo A joystick with Padded wrist support!

We need that for games :3
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General BlackDragon wrote:OOoooooooooooooooo A joystick with Padded wrist support!

We need that for games :3
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